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hmm. The Workwears in 28 are the biggest size 28 I've ever seen, probably because they have such a long rise--they're meant to be pretty high waisted from what I can tell. The New Works have a lower rise, so I don't know how that's changed the fit.
I should note The Workwear's I've tried on and own are Iteration 2, and they don't seem high/larger waisted like the OG Iteration 3's & OG Winter's I own. They are similar to the 60/40's.
What iteration are your 28's?
The New Works I have never seen, nor looked into - just thought they might be close in size to the Workwears because of the name alone. Would have to compare the measurements, if anyone needs that info.
I understand why their clothing is priced as high as it is, but shelling out that much for a pair blind is pretty much out of the question for me. A sample priced pair would be perfect, though...
Got the 32 Workwears 'as is' in slate grey (probably put FS soon as too small for me) were $94 US
I ordered the OG's in 32 slate too- but since they sold out they gave me a choice of any pant. So I grabbed full price 60/40's in tan for the As Is price ($94 again)
Was my lucky day + they have great customer service in general. (ex. After mentioning my issues with crazy UPS brokerage fee's they started shipping to Canada with USPS instead - no extra fee's since)
Thus far I've tried the New Works and Slim Dungarees Iteration 2. I'm pretty happy with both of them. The fabric is unique. Though it is synthetic, it has a weave and general feel that doesn't make me think "ugh" when it's on my skin. The construction seems good, as does the durability of the fabric. Time will tell, but they seem to have an excellent return policy.
I generally take a 30 waist. Both are size 30. Both fit just fine without a belt (my preference for most things casual)).
The New Works are relatively stiff (there's no stretch in the fabric), but they drape nicely. Took them on a decently long, through-town wet/slushy, few degrees above freezing bike ride with no fenders on the bike today. Rode through puddles, fast, on purpose, to test the fabric. My butt got wet, and didn't dry out during my ride, but that was expected. On the thighs, light splashes of grime and water beaded and brushed right off.
The Slim Dungarees are, indeed, slim, but don't have the look of way-too-tight jeans, plus the relatively lightness of the material and the added stretch (2 percent, I think) allows for extra mobility. I haven't worn these on a bike ride, yet, but testing them at home (ie, pouring water on them) indicates a reasonable amount of water resistance and fast drying time.
My only qualm would be that the crotch could be a bit roomier on both; I actually like a rise a bit higher than what seems to be the norm for many pants these days, but the stretch helps, as does the gusseted crotch. Might look at the Keirin Cut; maybe the roomier thigh opening means a bit more crotch-room, too.
Overall, I'm quite pleased. Fine looking pants, and much more suited to biking or being active in crappy weather (probably any weather) than jeans or dress pants. No, you don't need specialty clothing to ride a bike - but it's nice that there is stuff that is durable, looks fairly elegant and understated while keeping one warmer/drier/more comfortable than garments made from other materials. I dislike the general flaming colors/bright stripes/obvious logos found on a lot of outdoor/technical clothing; not everyone is climbing a mountain and needing to stand out like a neon sign, and not everyone being active in inclement weather is doing it out in the backcountry.
I'd love to try some of their shirting for fit but haven't gotten to it. That new heavy merino cardigan looks pretty sick, too.
Big, big thumbs up for thier customer service. Rachel rocks--took 3 exchanges to get my size right & all were free in all directions. Pretty unhead of, really.
Cheers. I don't have massive cyclist thighs (not yet, anyhow!), and overall, like the look of the slim dungarees, but given their excellent return policy, I may have to give the Keirins a go, especially in light of your comments about the crotch/thigh area mobility.
There's a line between looking tailored and being able to move; newer construction techniques and fabrics blur that line considerably (I find it's easier to have quite fitted upper body garments), but there are limitations as to what can be done with other parts of the anatomy (legs, and, er, everything in their proximity) when it's important that movement isn't greatly hampered.
and they are actually more like a size 31. (probably why they were AS IS)
but I compared the measurements against the the New Works (31) while I was at it
and the only difference is the New Works have a higher rear rise by a couple of inches.