They're a little stiff but IMO perfect business casual pants. As for the person who asked about them "breaking in"--I've worn mine 6 or 7 times and washed after each; look about the same now as they did when I bought em. Whether that's a good thing or not is in the eye of the beholder
I have a pair of new Nyco slims in olive in 36 I'll let go for $75 shipped CONUS. Bought em when they came out, they were too big for me, and I'd feel bad asking for a return label at this point...
Please don't ban me, Fok