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Outlier Tailored Performance Clothing

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Does anyone here have any experience with Outlier Clothing? Their stuff - especially their pants - look impressive, and I've been coveting them awhile. I was a bit taken aback as no real discussion has been made of their stuff, so, here's an opportunity.

http://outlier.cc/
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I have a pair of the Keirin Cut Dungarees and really like them. I like them because the make performance clothing that doesn't look like it. I plan to pick up a merino tee soon. Lucky for me they are local.
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I have a pair of the Climbers and they are some of my favorite pants of all time. They are relatively skinny but still very comfortable thanks to the fabric.
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Why do you need special clothing for riding a bike?
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^The same can be said for just about any outdoor activity. I'm gonna say it's safe to say the fabrics and the cuts they use can withstand cycling in conditions where traditional fabrics may wear faster or inhibit movement. I've never used any of their clothing, but tried on their Taylor Stitch collaboration shirts over here at their SF shop. The fabrics on those were pretty nice, and construction seemed just as good as the ones on Taylor Stitch's SF made shirts. I can't comment on if the pattern would be better than a traditional OCBD for riding. I fit a TS shirt in 36 pretty well, and the S in the Outlier shirts felt pretty loose. I'm 5'6" and 130lbs more or less if that helps any. I will say that the soft shell like fabric for the pants look strange. If I was gonna wear clothes for cycling, I'd just go clipless with comfy clothes I could mess up and bring a change of clothes with me or leave some at work. The merino tees seem cool though. I might snag some of the v neck ones later.
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Originally Posted by nineohtoo View Post
^The same can be said for just about any outdoor activity. I'm gonna say it's safe to say the fabrics and the cuts they use can withstand cycling in conditions where traditional fabrics may wear faster or inhibit movement.
Seriously 50% of the Danish population rides bikes everywhere 350 days a year and 99% of those people wear what ever they want and the last 1% wears cycling clothes, so I don't get it. Most scandinavians looks like this when riding a bike and I have never heard anyone complain about their movement being restricted www.copenhagencyclechic.com
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I don't love Schoeller fabric as an every day material. It reminds me of ski pants I had in the 1980s. IMO Outlier is on the right track, as it were. But they're getting closer...

I have the perfect cycle/work pant in mind, which would be closer to what Rapha is selling, -- http://www.rapha.cc/rapha-trousers -- but with a slightly canted rear waistband and a better shoe/pant interface solution (perhaps hidden button/loop so you can roll them up.

Still, the main problem is that once you introduce enough stretch into the fabric to be truly comfortable when riding, you cross over into a "technical" look, which doesn't fly in most workplaces.

(Sorry, I've thought a lot about this b/c I ride a lot.)
post #8 of 1347
very expensive stuff but great quality and does what its supposed to.

not really worth it IMO unless you really bike often. again like what everyone else said, you can just wear normal clothes.

but i have the merino tee but cant find it right now and had the merino hoody but sold it to someone else on this forum.
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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post
Seriously 50% of the banish population rides bikes everywhere 350 days a year and 99% of those people wear what ever they want and the last 1% wears cycling clothes, so I don't get it.

Most scandinavians looks like this when riding a bike and I have never heard anyone complain about their movement being restricted
www.copenhagencyclechic.com

Exactly. The problem is that in the US, riding a bicycle has long been marketed as an activity that requires the cyclist to always invest in new equipment, clothing or accessories. This is why you see fat old men on super expensive carbon bikes that give them the illusion to be like Lance.

To get back to Outlier, they might make nice products, but the principle behind the brand goes against what cycling is for me, ie something anybody can do, as long as you find a bike. There are many better options when it comes to merino tshirts, even though they might not be "cut and sewn in New York City". And I also can't help but take a step back when making $200 canvas pants that will be get trashed requires a "philosophy".
Basically, good products but stupid rhetorics.
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I have the workwear pant and i wear it for live-event setup stuff because it's black and it's not jeans so i can dress it up, and they are pretty well cut, though the drop on the original version is for 1850s lumberjacks. they cut an inch from the drop on the second version, and I'd recommend it. durable, classy pants--at least, classier than anyone else around you setting up for live events.

be aware of their vanity sizing though--size 28 with them is the roomiest 28 I've ever seen, probably because the rise is so high.
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I also have the workwear pant, and two pairs of their shorts. I cycle regularly, throughout the year, and am all about wearing my regular clothes when I cycle. I don't ever wear spandex or jerseys or any of the other bike costume stuff, even if I am riding 75-100 miles. Outlier is solid, solid stuff. I love the fact that the fabric is lightweight, breathable, moisture and stain-resistant, and super comfortable. They look decent. They are not trousers I would wear all the time, but they are the best thing going for riding. Do you NEED clothing for riding a bike? Depends on how much you ride and how comfortable you want to be when you arrive at your destination. Having a pair of sweaty jeans on when you get to where you are going, to me, sucks. So I wear my outlier pants and enjoy myself. Can't speak to their merino stuff, but their other fabrics are very nice for "performance" clothing.
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I own quite a few of their items. In fact, I'm wearing a pair of their OG pants right now and I wear their hoodie all the time. I'll give a generic impression below, but if you have questions about any particular items, I can go into more details (I own a hoodie, t-shirts, and every pant except the lightweights). Their clothes, in general, look pretty good. But they're a bit of compromise that leans more towards performance than looks. Their pants do more or less everything they claim: feel like sweatpants but look like trousers; are pretty water resistant; don't smell; are lightweight but way more durable than denim. However, the OGs don't look quite as good as a pair of nice wool trousers. The khakis come pretty close, but I don't really like khakis much. The workwear fabric is awesome, but nice jeans look much better. But they're great for what I need. As an IT worker that commutes on a road bike, they get me to the office and I still look better than all my colleagues (granted, they're all typical IT workers). If I take a ride just to exercise, I can stop by the grocery store afterwards and look presentable. For most peopke, it really makes more sense to just buy an upright city bike and wear normal clothes. But you can always try out a pair and see what you think, as they have a pretty generous return policy.
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Personally, I think the schoeller pants serve a great purpose for riding in the rain alone. If you don't see the value in that you don't ride enough to buy these to begin with... That on top of being perfect for One Bag travelling in that they don't pick up odour, are light and don't seem to stain.

I've got the 4season OG's (3rd Iteration) and summer shorts in dark grey and the light grey Merino V-Neck tee. The sizing was a bit finicky and warranted some exchanges which was costly from Canada.

Sizing Tips: For pants I measure to be a 33 in their charts .

The OG's fit one size (or more) large, I had to exchange for 32 which are still about a half size too big. But I still wear these the most, and am glad I spent the money every time I need to ride in the rain. Good in snow too, but the dry winter air leaves them a bit staticy to recommend for it.

* I also tried on The Climbers in 33 which were also a size big in the waist but were a bit too tight in the thighs/butt for me.

The Summer Short's in 32 ended up being about a half size to small for me, but still wearable. Because they have a drawstring I'd go with a 33 if bought again. Got these more for One Bag travel and they worked perfectly as both a bathing suit and shorts (although they can chafe if worn too long after a sea swim)

Merino V: The Medium fit great as per their sizing chart, softest merino I've yet to wear although it did stain easily - light grey can be like that though. Overall I prefer Icebreaker V's and am looking to try a Rapha V on asap.
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I'm not sure why people are having so many issues with sizing. They tell you that they vanity size by about 2", and to make sure you get it, you can check measurements of waist, thigh, rise, etc on their site.

I will agree that their clothes makes great travel gear if you like to pack light. Packing three wool shirts is better than packing 6 cotton shirts for a 3 week trip.
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IMHO, I think the clothing is quite nice and comfortable. I've only rocked some pants and a windbreaker, and would gladly buy more as needed. I certainly don't need clothing specifically for biking most of the time. But I'm also a member of a forum whose members spend a shit ton of money on clothing which, in all likelihood, they don't need either. That said, I'd prefer to wear Outlier over a bunch of other 'performance' clothing while biking.
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