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Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts? - Page 567post #8491 of 869910/2/16 at 3:43ampost #8492 of 869910/4/16 at 4:35pmpost #8493 of 869910/5/16 at 5:05am
Japanese dealer Empty Garage has some blog posts on #38, #55, 461 and Semi-Dress last. You can find them by googling "empty garage blog #38 last“, for example. They're in Japanese, but Google-translating the posts and applying some creative imagination makes them somewhat understandable;-)
As a bonus, you'll find all the words that have a phonetic transcription instead of a proper translation – this often happens with names, leather types etc. I love those words after they're translated back: Bullhide becomes buruhaido for example, Semi-Dress turns into semidoresu, and White's Boots to Howaitsubutsu.
I'm also considering the #38 last for my first "real" MTO pair. Judging from how my #55 and SD last boots fit my feet, the #38 with its wide toe looks like just the ticket. But what pictures and most descriptions fail to capture is the difference in instep / midfoot volume – in other words: is just the toe area wider, or is the instep area roomier as well?
Also, not sure how shocking a Swing-lasted size 13 pair of White's boots will look.post #8494 of 869910/5/16 at 6:52ampost #8495 of 869910/5/16 at 8:08ampost #8496 of 869910/5/16 at 10:18ampost #8497 of 869910/5/16 at 10:22ampost #8498 of 869910/5/16 at 3:10pmpost #8499 of 869910/5/16 at 4:06pmQuote:
could you post more photos from different angles? That's a smoke jumper upper with a swing last? Thanks!
also, what are the pros/cons of an unstructured toe?post #8500 of 869910/6/16 at 3:45am
If you choose "no" for the "Celastic toe" option, what results is an unstructured or soft toe. So the toe box only consists of leather and will gradually deform or “collapse“ with wear. I's the default toe construction for the Smokejumper, and is part of the typical Smokejumper look.
With a single (or double) Celastic toe, the toe box contains one (or two) layer(s) of plastic in addition to the leather layers. So the toe shape is much more defined, and will not (i.e. never) deform or crease. Most Semi-Dress boots are built that way. From my experience with three pairs (soft toe Farmer-Rancher, soft toe Hathorn Smokejumper, Celastic Semi-Dress), the Celastic has some pros and cons:
post #8501 of 869910/17/16 at 4:26pmpost #8502 of 869910/17/16 at 6:25pmpost #8503 of 869910/17/16 at 6:33pmpost #8504 of 869910/18/16 at 8:57am
- "Dressy", well defined look (if that is preferred) and the ability to take a high shine (due to the toe leather always remaining tight, smooth and uncreased)
- A certain amount of impact protection: even the single celastic is surprisingly strong and will resist kicks and most tools or small bricks you might drop on it. It's no substitute for a steel toe, though.
- Toes or toe joints will not bulge out even on tight fits, so the outline always remains clean and smooth. Which is of course a two-sided thing, as...
- ...Celastic toes are much harder on your toes if the fit isn't perfect. In other words: Soft toe is much more benign (and probably more comfortable even than a correctly fitted Celastic toe).
After owning several boots of various brands in both lined and unlined, I'll always choose lined if I have the choice.
It's just nicer sliding your sock into a smooth lining, rather than the rough unlined boot, IMO.
I also haven't seem that much difference in how warm it makes the boot, but I haven't really made a conscious effort to track that.post #8505 of 869910/18/16 at 12:39pm
I actually don't find the dress leather to be very thick, less thick than CXL or oil tan for example, but I think to line or not to line is fine, just a preference for more or less substantialness.
Seems hard to find pics of black dress with much wear. Here is one with at least a bit of wear:
And here on the left is brown dress, looking very dark, with some good wear. This was one of the first pics I saw of White's and I still love this particular boot:
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