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post #8176 of 8702
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Originally Posted by andy b. View Post


On White's (and most of these style of workboots) the toe and heel have an extra layer of leather lining anyway, so "lined" uppers really only relates to the shaft for the most part. I have a pair of Bounty Hunters (which look pretty similar to the OP's boots) with Red Dog lowers and brown bullhide shaft. I was told by Kyle that the bullhide needed to have a lining, so mine are lined. I can't say how much thinner the bullhide is, but mine are about 5 years old and normally get the most wear of any of my boots, and I think the bullhide should last 20 years, minimum. LOL


I simply can't justify another pair of Whites but when I do I want to go Bull Hide.  I've heard really good things about that particular leather.  Bison is another one I want.  My problem is that I don't "need" any more Whites.  I have three pairs now.

post #8177 of 8702
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Originally Posted by xiaopigu View Post
 

Hi all,

 

What's the difference between White's Bounty Hunter and White's Packers?

 

I have a high instep, high arches, and wide feet. Which one would fit better between the two? 

 

Thanks


I'd be talking to Bakers with feet like yours.  Generally, those of us with real wide "duck feet" like the swing last.  A high arch added to wide feet is something where a professional needs to be consulted.  I've got the wide "duck feet" but a real low arch and the swing last or the classic last works very well for me.  It's there and I can feel it doing it's job but it is not too high.  The high arch in my SJ's required thin leather spacers and are very comfy with them.  Without, the arch was just too high for me.  I will add that there is a strange phenomenon with the Swing Last.  The arch actually becomes more pronounced as they wear in.  Another poster here has noticed the same thing.  It's very comfortable for my flat feet.  For me, so far, the swing last edges the others out for comfort but the classic last on my CWB's is real nice as well although not as pronounced as the swing last when broken in or the SJ's.  With the CWB's it's just barely there.  With the swing last it's slightly more noticeable and with the SJ's it's really there but still real comfy with the spacers I have glued in.  The swing last is my favorite, so far.

post #8178 of 8702

Thanks, I will check once I get the funds. Looking to purchase one in maybe September :). I'm really liking the Packer last (Dress Packers rofl) but will have to check if they work for my feet. I know the packer last has the highest instep and the highest arches, but I don't know whether they suit wide feet too.

 

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post #8179 of 8702

I didn't know this before -- thanks for the explanation.  I was concerned, for my understanding is that bull leather is thin and needs an inner lining.

post #8180 of 8702
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Originally Posted by yumacool View Post

I didn't know this before -- thanks for the explanation.  I was concerned, for my understanding is that bull leather is thin and needs an inner lining.

I don't know about White's bull hide, but I have heard the same thing you have. Also, I have heard that most of what people call bull hide is actually just standard bovine leather--actually lower grades of it--that has been heavily processed to have that "bull hide look." Even if you ask White's, I doubt they would endorse choosing their bull hide for rough work. Their smooth/oiled work leathers are the heavy duty ones.
post #8181 of 8702

Perhaps bull hide is chosen more for its looks rather than as a "serious" leather?  For those of you who own White's boots made of this material, what do you think?

post #8182 of 8702
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Originally Posted by yumacool View Post

Perhaps bull hide is chosen more for its looks rather than as a "serious" leather?  For those of you who own White's boots made of this material, what do you think?

The bull hide is pretty tough, but it is not tougher than the oil tanned "work leathers" as they call them (black, distressed, brown and red dog, smooth-out or rough-out). If you ask Whites or Baker about their toughest leathers that is always what they will recommend, and if you are building a boot with a safety toe then you are required to get one of the work leathers.
post #8183 of 8702
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Originally Posted by yumacool View Post

Perhaps bull hide is chosen more for its looks rather than as a "serious" leather?  For those of you who own White's boots made of this material, what do you think?

I don't think I would choose bullhide for the toe of a pair of workboots. For one thing, the wrinkles in it would be pulled almost smooth over the toe, so it would kind of defeat the purpose. The bullhide has a certain look to it, defined by the creases. I did find it fairly easy to break-in because of all the creasing. Also, it is slightly thinner than the standard smooth oiled leathers, so any gouges will be more likely to cut through the leather.
post #8184 of 8702
Off topic, but this thread has been cracking me up - strange that Smokejumpers have yet to make an appearance...


"SW&D: End of the World Challenge - Your Last Outfit"
post #8185 of 8702
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Originally Posted by broken_oracle View Post

Off topic, but this thread has been cracking me up - strange that Smokejumpers have yet to make an appearance...


"SW&D: End of the World Challenge - Your Last Outfit"

I think Smoke Jumpers would be good for this purpose, but my Viberg 251X CSA steel-toed boots are actually somewhat heavier-duty. :-)
post #8186 of 8702

I"m so disappointed that they don't make the retro oxford anymore.

 

I love mine and after nearly a year, if I could I would order at least one more pair.

post #8187 of 8702

I agree Neognosis I tried to simulate it with changing soles on my burgundy white oxfords. ended up nice but quite heavy.  still the fit is perfect

post #8188 of 8702
Finally got my order into bakers for my smoke jumpers. since I ordered pretty normal boots I hope it's closer to the 4 week time line instead of six!
post #8189 of 8702

I just received my first pair of White's!! Placed my order with Baker´s on March 4th and received them on April 20th, so 46 days. It is a pretty straightforward makeup in distressed smooth. Only the gusset tongue is a different leather and color.  I asked for a half sole and a half slip, as I don't like the look of the heel sliced through by the rubber sole and the half slip gives balance to the width of the overall outsole, especially at the midpoint.

 

The build-a-boot tool didn´t allow specification of a half sole (a 705) and a darker gusset, so I had to email Kyle a couple times to get that included; but the standard report doesn´t reflect those differences. Kyle was great helping me out with sizing and finally figuring out my order.

 

I'll post pictures as soon as I get my hands on them as I'm away now. Really looking forward to testing the arch support.

 

1 x White's Smoke Jumper Standard Last - $444.95
SKU: 400

 
  • Leather 1: Distressed Smooth
  • Leather 2: Distressed Smooth
  • Toe Vamp Leather: Distressed Smooth
  • Toe Cap Leather: None
  • Celastic Toe Box: None
  • Safety Toe: No Thanks
  • Heel Counter Leather: Distressed Smooth
  • Height: 8"
  • Upper (Shaft) Leather : Distressed Smooth
  • Leather Liner: No Thanks
  • Sole Trim: Standard Trim
  • Top: Cut
  • Back Stay Leather: Distressed Smooth
  • Pull Loop: Yes
  • Eyelet Color: Antique
  • Eyelet Configuration : Hook and Eyelet
  • Top Garment: Hook
  • Lace Design: Plain Toe
  • Lace: Leather
  • False Tongue: Distressed Smooth
  • Sole: Vib 700
  • Half Slip: Yes
  • Heel Shape: Curve
  • Heel Height: Standard
  • Last: Standard
  • Midsole: Standard
  • Midsole/Edge Color: Natural
  • Size - Length: 10
  • Size - Width: C
post #8190 of 8702
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Originally Posted by Neognosis View Post

I"m so disappointed that they don't make the retro oxford anymore.

I love mine and after nearly a year, if I could I would order at least one more pair.

You and me both! The 4-eyelet version I have is sick.
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