Update on day 1
First sorry for the long post, but hopefully this dribble helps someone get the perfect boot.
Bakers 4 out of 5 STARS!
Good: Wonderful people! Always helpful courteous I think of a single time I didn’t have a welcoming conversation with anyone at Bakers. They were good on follow through, and not trying to hurry me to make the sale.
Bad: Why 1 star taken away? 2-Order mishaps. I ordered a pair of boots with 2 unique custom features that needed special attention. Unfortunately, both of the features didn’t were not on the boots.
1. One was the unique eye-let and hook placement, (2 top hooks, 6 eye-lets was ordered) Whites got them reversed and Bakers had to fix it. As you can from the pictures, Bakers eye-lets aren’t as ‘secure’ as White’s. In addition, I settled on 5 eye-lets 2 hooks and 1 eye-let on the top witch I won’t be using. Not a big deal on the inferior eye-lets reduced eye-lets, as long as they stay-put in the leather. I got a feeling in 2 or 3 years they may come apart from the leather as they don’t look to secure on the back side. Have to wait and see, but could just be my picky nature, and they are fine.
Pictures of repair (can you guess the 2 eye-lets placed by Bakers?)
2. Second mishap was the extra large gusset or tongue to double wrap the leather under the laces, and that didn’t happen. Could it have been White’s issue, of course but Bakers was my in between and I am very OC and sent out detailed instructions and pictures with a ton of instructions on top of the pictures, (maybe too much information) but wanted to avoid what I ended up getting. Not a deal breaker just a bit disappointed. As someone above had mentioned about not wanting to send in the boots for a resole, as they come back ‘different’ due to taking them apart. SO I won’t send them in to get the extra Gusset as I want them to stay as ‘original’ as possible.
You can see in this sample picture how the Gusset folds over to create layers of leather for the tounge.
Here are mine with the same pose, No way I could double fold that Gusset
ARE THEY KEEPERS?: YES!! I’m definitely going to keep them as they are truly awesome boots, and should serve me for years to come. I have some issues, but probably not what you’re thinking. Now that I have worn them for about a day out in the real world, I love them. (I have been wearing $20 sneakers since August, so just glad to be in a pair of quality boots!) Some of the issues are plus’s and some of the issues have an easy fix. Keep reading.
Flexible sole – only a ‘single midsole’ from white’s, but it is still quite thick. I am pleasantly surprised how flexible right from the start. I Don’t need thick soles, construction day’s are in the past, need comfortable walking boots and the single midsole with a thick vibram sole is great right out of the gate. Couldn’t be happier with how the 269 feels.
Half leather inside boot- Not happy with this! What I’m fearing is that it will roll up as I take my foot in and out of the boots repeatedly over time. Since I didn’t get the extra Gusset, my wide foot is really a tight fit getting them in and out of the boot. This might unglue the leather and be uncomfortable. This is a future issue I hope I don’t have to deal with, but was hoping that extra Gusset keep this from being an issue. Right now it is fine, but since were paying $400 plus for a custom boot this shouldn’t be an issue.
You can see the corner already starting to peal.
Role of pennies I feel like I’m walking on a roll of pennies. I think this is the ‘Arch Ease’ and from what I have read will go away once they are broken in. It will become a positive as they will be great for standing all day and keep your feet from getting tired. But, right now it is like walking on a role of pennies, very uncomfortable. I’ll update on time and average wear before they break in a future update.
Next pair What would I change now that I have them?
8 inches: Next pair with be 8 inch! These are 6 inch and feel good, but think the 8 inch would be better fit for me personally.
Fit: I think I will change the fit on my next pair of Whites. I wear an 11.5 in most shoes, sometimes bigger depending on the brand. These are a size 11FF, but after only 4 hours think my next pair will be 10.5FFF, due to how big White’s run. My plan is to wear them for 6 months and decide on the size of my black pair of White’s then. This may change as I break these in and find out if I was right or if Bakers was right.
Vibram 430 Mini-lug half soles: I think they look great and might be even more flexible than full Vibram I have now.
Without the extra Gusset, the laces are tight on my legs as the leather tongue is a single layer and the false tongue is too short for the top hooks. To fix this ill just order a longer false tongue from Bakers or Whites. This is the last thing they I'll worry about, not a big deal but why not do it now that I'm in 'Boot' mode.
These are really nice boots! I have a few issues with the building and missing features, but they are solidly built and will be a great boot for a long time to come. The areas where the boots are slightly mismatched, stitching is off or crocked or the leather is not quite lined up are pluses in my book. They show that they were made by hand and have serous man hours to produce a unique boot. I like the fact that a human made these and worked on them for hours to get them to me. They were made in the USA, by craftsmen and the price point you pay for a quality pair of White’s is worth every penny!
1. Walking on Pennies, this is normal? They will form to my foot as I break them in? This Arch Ease really is pronounced on the outsides of each foot as well. The roll is felt just forward the heal all the way across width of my foot. It is killing my feet, any suggestions other than just wearing them?
I'm curious, do the boots ‘break-in’ or do your feet just get used to the roll of pennies?
2. Top eye-let always on White's boots, is there a reason for this? Are we not supposed to use that last eye=let?
I got wide feet, even the FF Width my feet are pushing out the leather.