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@spurs,

 

I don't want to claim any expertise on these sole things.  I really don't know whether your Vibram 269 soles are doing what they are supposed to do or not.  If they seem defective to you, and they truly might be, I would contact White's and ask them about it.  They might take care of it.  You could also contact Vibram.  They represent themselves as selling a premium product, so they might also want to help you out.  Then you could tell us all what they told you, so we would know what the deal is with these soles.

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Happy New Year!  You have had a long journey with these.  I hope they are everything you hoped.  After the long wait, though, take your time to inspect them for defects before trying them on.  Then try them on your home on carpet a couple of times, preferably late in the day, preferably with different thicknesses of socks.  Then if they feel like they really do fit, and you have plenty of room in the toe...remember these are boots that need room in the toe...only then, wear them outside...Perhaps I am saying things you already know well...I am saying them just because I have rushed into wearing boots outside because I was so excited to get them after a long wait and then discovered they had a problem...

 

I will also say that White's can have some small cosmetic problems.  I hope yours don't have any, but you will need to decide, if they do, whether you will accept them or not.  Interestingly, my two pair of Semi Dress boots, which should be more about looks, had small things wrong that I noticed.  My Smoke Jumpers had absolutely nothing I could find on them...luck, I guess.

 

 

THANKS!! I looking for any and all advise.

I have read through this entire forum, but forgot more than i retained. Will follow your advice, to make sure fit is true!

 

I'm looking forward to the 'imperfections'. I think that a pair of hand-made boots should have little 'goof's'. Nice to have something that isn't put together by a machine. Your advice is sound on making sure the fit is right. It should be be spot on and snug. Growing into a pair is possible (my back-up pair of Justin's are 25 years old and a full size to small. My big toe wore through the top leather toe.) I just want to get the fit spot on. I'm looking forward to seeing blemishes with the leather, of not quite straight stitching. (Leather should be hand made, and my car should made by machine as much as possible)

 

Any other advice on making sure your knew boots are 'right'? 

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THANKS!! I looking for any and all advise.

I have read through this entire forum, but forgot more than i retained. Will follow your advice, to make sure fit is true!

 

I'm looking forward to the 'imperfections'. I think that a pair of hand-made boots should have little 'goof's'. Nice to have something that isn't put together by a machine. Your advice is sound on making sure the fit is right. It should be be spot on and snug. Growing into a pair is possible (my back-up pair of Justin's are 25 years old and a full size to small. My big toe wore through the top leather toe.) I just want to get the fit spot on. I'm looking forward to seeing blemishes with the leather, of not quite straight stitching. (Leather should be hand made, and my car should made by machine as much as possible)

 

Any other advice on making sure your knew boots are 'right'? 


While standing and wearing the socks you with to use with the boots, you should have over a half inch of room between your longest toe and the front of the boot.  Within reason, there is not a problem with too much room in the toe.  The widest part of your forefoot, the ball of your foot, should be located at the widest spot of the boot.

 

Wearing heavier socks, you should still have plenty of room in the toe, but should find them rather snug otherwise.  However, if they are too snug with even thin socks, then they are too small width-wise.  They might end up being too loose if they aren't rather snug in heavier socks to begin with.

 

Anyway, I am no expert, this is just what I have found for myself.  Perhaps other people can correct what I'm saying or offer other useful advice.  Best wishes.

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I bought these white's retro oxfords by baker's back in May. I thought they were too tight across my foot, at the first toe joint, and they were way too tight on the top of my toes as well.

I wore them anyway one or two times a week for six months, then had them stretched by a local shoe repair guy. Now they fit much better. Hey are a 9d, but I should have gone with 9e.

I wear them at work, which involves teaching people how to assemble and operate communications equipment, and I like these because they are clearly real work shoes, but are a little bit more professional than boots. They go well with a pair of chinos and a shirt and tie.

British tan. Never oiled or treated in any way, just brushed after wear.



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That was exactly my thought with the retro oxford as well: order up a width. I went the other way on my second pair, too wide! Went with EE when E would have sufficed!
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By the way... What I wrote applies to the Hathorn boots, not the Hathorn Explorer, which are the cheapest range of boots. The Explorer models are made with imported uppers - I think they are still lasted in Spokane but the quality of the leather is not comparable with the other ranges, which are entirely built from scratch with US sourced materials.
I bought my black Hathorn SJs from White's ebay shop Whitesriver at a similar price to the one you quoted. At that price the value is fantastic, though for me the fun is partly spoiled by the shipping cost (to Germany) and import duties which almost double the price in the end.


Thank you very much!! 

 

Is there any good shoemakers who make good boots in Germany? 

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That was exactly my thought with the retro oxford as well: order up a width. I went the other way on my second pair, too wide! Went with EE when E would have sufficed!


I was going to ask you about your EE pair.  I have 7 1/2 D that fit well with dress socks, but won't work with anything thicker.  I managed to get a line on a pair of Dress Black Retros in 7 1/2 E, hoping they work out, as Whites is definitely not making these anymore (in the US anyway).  Which is a shame, because the 54 last is the most comfortable for me.  

 

Haven't got them yet but I hope they work out.

 

 

My Natural CXL with moderate wear, untreated:

 

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I bought these white's retro oxfords by baker's back in May. I thought they were too tight across my foot, at the first toe joint, and they were way too tight on the top of my toes as well.

I wore them anyway one or two times a week for six months, then had them stretched by a local shoe repair guy. Now they fit much better. Hey are a 9d, but I should have gone with 9e.

I wear them at work, which involves teaching people how to assemble and operate communications equipment, and I like these because they are clearly real work shoes, but are a little bit more professional than boots. They go well with a pair of chinos and a shirt and tie.

British tan. Never oiled or treated in any way, just brushed after wear.

Glad they are working for you, they look great!

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Thank you very much!! 

 

Is there any good shoemakers who make good boots in Germany? 

There are some excellent companies that still hand build their boots in Germany – Meindl and Hanwag for example make great mountaineering boots, Trabert makes beautiful hunting boots, and there's a lot of smaller brands mostly for formal/dress footwear. 

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Just curious if anyone can ID these boots/shoes.  At first glance I thought they were White's, but the heel counter is not right.

 

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My boots will be here TOMORROW!

       After 4 long months, yea I'm excited!

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great news. means mine are close too

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Great to hear both of you will have new boots soon!

 

For what it's worth, mine took four months from measuring to the day I picked them up from the dealer.  It was frustrating at times but worth it to have the only lace up footwear that has ever fit me properly.  I don't even have wide or narrow feet either.

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Just curious if anyone can ID these boots/shoes.  At first glance I thought they were White's, but the heel counter is not right.



looks more like nicks.
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These came today, and I thought I'd post a picture just because. They're untreated, but again I live in Seattle. I threw some Montana's Pitch Blend on the seam on the outsole. I haven't touched the upper leather at vamp/upper/heel. I have Montana's, Venetian, and Saphyr Graisse (i think). 

 

Is Horween a good candidate for the heat-in-oven-then-slather technique? I don't want to mess these up on day one. Can I wear these in light rain and just make sure I dry them at home? I want them to patina like a mo-fo but i don't want to ruin anything irrevocably right out of the box. 

 

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