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post #7771 of 8708
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Originally Posted by linafelt View Post
 

^^ It's a shame that the 269 has gone bad for some guys.  I really like the way it looks -- the thin black line in the heel, etc, and also I feel like it's pretty comfy to walk on and works well on nearly all surfaces in my experience (except packed snow or ice, which I rarely get in DC). For what it's worth, I have worn mine (on BH's) for over a year and a half with no problems.  Just now they are getting an expected wear mark on each sole right at the ball of my foot; nothing unusual. I expect them to last at least another year or two, maybe more.

 

So perhaps the problems are not endemic to the 269 but was rather a certain batch or era..?  Those of you who are on the Viberg board might remember a similar thing with a batch of Itshide soles..

Could you share some pictures of the 269?

 

I'm thinking that also some boots with the 269 are being over worked, and the user should have chosen a more serious work sole. I'm also planning on using them in a dry climate, and mostly for walking so I'm thinking I shouldn't have the issues others have had. 

 

Illrd Icon, hasn't had a resole in years, and I'm thinking he is right about screwing up his boots when they do get resoled. Another reason I liked the 269 is it is pretty thick and solid sole, without the nubs and seems like it would have a long life. If I can get by with only heal repairs that would be great. 

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Originally Posted by JakeVooDoo View Post

Could you share some pictures of the 269?

I'm thinking that also some boots with the 269 are being over worked, and the user should have chosen a more serious work sole. I'm also planning on using them in a dry climate, and mostly for walking so I'm thinking I shouldn't have the issues others have had. 

Illrd Icon, hasn't had a resole in years, and I'm thinking he is right about screwing up his boots when they do get resoled. Another reason I liked the 269 is it is pretty thick and solid sole, without the nubs and seems like it would have a long life. If I can get by with only heal repairs that would be great. 
post #7773 of 8708
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Originally Posted by linafelt View Post

That looks like a very normal wear pattern, hope mine wear in similar fashion. THANKS for the Pic

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I am worried about creasing across the vamp. These are bison and probably have about 50 miles of walking on them. The pictures don't do the leather justice. When i look at pictures the creasing doesn't look so bad, but I am worried about the leather becoming damaged. Am I being a baby? I know they're suppose to wear/fade and I look forward to it i just don't want something to crack. I don't think i can use Venetian/Grasse on this leather without changing it dramatically.

 

post #7775 of 8708
They look fine. You can't wear boots without creasing. These look hardly broken in.
post #7776 of 8708

can i get a cobbler to add a front half sole of something more rugged than leather and not sacrifice the lines? i just snagged a pair like this but they've yet to arrive. i don't wear my bison ones in the seatte rain but i hopefully will be wearing these in light rain. 

 

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post #7777 of 8708
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Originally Posted by mboon85 View Post
 

can i get a cobbler to add a front half sole of something more rugged than leather and not sacrifice the lines? i just snagged a pair like this but they've yet to arrive. i don't wear my bison ones in the seatte rain but i hopefully will be wearing these in light rain. 

 

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A cobbler can add a half sole easily, but frankly the leather is quite tough, and will give a great look worn - I`d go natural, and replace in a few years...these shoes are tough, leather and rain is no problem

post #7778 of 8708

Here's a picture of what happened with my 269 sole after about 6 months of light wear in rotation with other boots - just walking, no "overworking" at all.

 

 

Since then I've continued to wear them of course and the hole and fraying has worsened. The other boot does not have a similar hole, but there are signs that one may occur. It's possible this was a defective sole or that I was unlucky, but I'm 100% confident that it wasn't anything I did. They weren't used for hiking or hard work, in fact I consider them my "dress up" boots. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by JakeVooDoo View Post
 

Could you share some pictures of the 269?

 

I'm thinking that also some boots with the 269 are being over worked, and the user should have chosen a more serious work sole. I'm also planning on using them in a dry climate, and mostly for walking so I'm thinking I shouldn't have the issues others have had. 

 

Illrd Icon, hasn't had a resole in years, and I'm thinking he is right about screwing up his boots when they do get resoled. Another reason I liked the 269 is it is pretty thick and solid sole, without the nubs and seems like it would have a long life. If I can get by with only heal repairs that would be great. 

post #7779 of 8708
Regarding the posts of @daizawaguy and @spurs61
 
Although the fraying of the sole that you show doesn't look ideal, it looks like a very shallow thing.  Even if you haven't been using them heavily, some wear on the soles should be expected eventually, right?  The great majority of the rubber, even at the places where there is fraying, is still there.
 
Aesthetically, I agree one might prefer for the sole to wear down in a different way, but I doubt those soles will need to be replaced for functional reasons for a good long while.
 
Now, there may have been a bad batch of Vibram 269s, and others might behave better in this regard.  In general, though, Vibram makes good quality products.  White's makes good quality products.  If the Vibram 269 sole was just generally terrible, I think Vibram and/or White's would stop selling it.  It might be that it optimizes appearance and flexibility over durability, but it wouldn't be sold for very long if it displeased too many customers.
 
I have the Vibram 269 on some Nick's|Zuriick boots which I have had for a month.  I haven't worn them all that much, but I can say the soles still look basically new to me.
 
Now, the Vibram 430 or 700 might be more durable and might last longer than the 269.  The 100, if you are willing to wear all the way through the tread will probably last even longer.  There are always trade offs.
 
As an additional data point, if I didn't mention it in a prior post:  When I recently spoke to Kyle at Baker Shoes regarding a couple new orders, he did steer me away from the Vibram 269, saying it didn't last as long as the 430 or 700.  I got the 430 on one and the 700 on the other.  I have single leather soles on a couple pair of Semi-Dress.  I have the 100 "red cross" lug sole on my Smoke Jumpers.  I will try to let you all know how I feel about the soles after half year or a full year of wear.
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Originally Posted by mboon85 View Post
 

I am worried about creasing across the vamp. These are bison and probably have about 50 miles of walking on them. The pictures don't do the leather justice. When i look at pictures the creasing doesn't look so bad, but I am worried about the leather becoming damaged. Am I being a baby? I know they're suppose to wear/fade and I look forward to it i just don't want something to crack. I don't think i can use Venetian/Grasse on this leather without changing it dramatically.

 


I agree with @meso , these boots look great.  Creasing is natural and doesn't portend structural failure of leather.  Some leathers will crease more than others.  

 

As an aside, many people recommend Bick 4 or Lexol, rather than Venetian, for treating leather.  They are inexpensive, work well, and minimally, if at all, darken lighter leathers.  You could test a bit on the tongue or some other low visibility spot.  I have not used Lexol, but have used Bick 4 with good results.

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I have both venetian and bicks 4 and found out I like the bicks better just after buying a quart of venetian on amazon. oh well.  use it on my bison every couple of months.

post #7782 of 8708
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Originally Posted by daizawaguy View Post
 


A cobbler can add a half sole easily, but frankly the leather is quite tough, and will give a great look worn - I`d go natural, and replace in a few years...these shoes are tough, leather and rain is no problem

 

I agree, a quality leather sole is plenty tough.  I have cowboy boots that I alternate with my White's and I've gotten the leather soles covered in mud, then used a garden hose to spay them down and continued to wear them until I have a chance to give them a good cleaning with a damp rag.  Of course these aren't White's but I doubt the leather soles White's use are inferior.  Even my dress cowboy boots with less robust leather soles have gotten wet and held up well.  Mine have worn and seemed to settle into a sweet spot for now.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Whirling View Post
 


I agree with @meso , these boots look great.  Creasing is natural and doesn't portend structural failure of leather.  Some leathers will crease more than others.  

 

As an aside, many people recommend Bick 4 or Lexol, rather than Venetian, for treating leather.  They are inexpensive, work well, and minimally, if at all, darken lighter leathers.  You could test a bit on the tongue or some other low visibility spot.  I have not used Lexol, but have used Bick 4 with good results.

 

I really like Bick 4 too, had great results with it and I need to pick up some more.  I haven't tried Lexol either so I can't speak to that, but hopefully if someone here has they can chime in.

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I just don't think the hole in my 269 really reflects normal wear, certainly when compared with the wear on other soles that I have (the 430 and the 700). I wouldn't call this issue "terrible" and admit it might be a single bad sole or part of a bad batch. But since I don't know how to explain it for sure, I personally would not recommend it to others. Of course, others are free to disagree and recommend/buy the 269 - it doesn't matter to me in the least.

 

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post #7784 of 8708

Vibram 269, is going to be my sole as Bakers reports it has already been attached. After, reading the last 20 post reporting on the 269 I would have chosen the 430 or 700 for sure. I'll see how well the 269 wear and keep posting the good and the bad. Im hoping that even if the thin 'tread' comes apart that they remaining thick Vibram solid sole remains in tack. I'm confident the boots will look fantastic, will see how well they hold up to light duty as I break them in.

 

2016 is HERE!! Time fly's, can't believe I have been working with Bakers since July to get a custom pair of white's and am still waiting. Don't mind the wait, as long ad they do a good job on putting them together. I a few 'options' I haven't seen posted on this forum, should be interesting to see how well they fit.  

post #7785 of 8708
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Originally Posted by JakeVooDoo View Post
 

Vibram 269, is going to be my sole as Bakers reports it has already been attached. After, reading the last 20 post reporting on the 269 I would have chosen the 430 or 700 for sure. I'll see how well the 269 wear and keep posting the good and the bad. Im hoping that even if the thin 'tread' comes apart that they remaining thick Vibram solid sole remains in tack. I'm confident the boots will look fantastic, will see how well they hold up to light duty as I break them in.

 

2016 is HERE!! Time fly's, can't believe I have been working with Bakers since July to get a custom pair of white's and am still waiting. Don't mind the wait, as long ad they do a good job on putting them together. I a few 'options' I haven't seen posted on this forum, should be interesting to see how well they fit.  


Happy New Year!  You have had a long journey with these.  I hope they are everything you hoped.  After the long wait, though, take your time to inspect them for defects before trying them on.  Then try them on your home on carpet a couple of times, preferably late in the day, preferably with different thicknesses of socks.  Then if they feel like they really do fit, and you have plenty of room in the toe...remember these are boots that need room in the toe...only then, wear them outside...Perhaps I am saying things you already know well...I am saying them just because I have rushed into wearing boots outside because I was so excited to get them after a long wait and then discovered they had a problem...

 

I will also say that White's can have some small cosmetic problems.  I hope yours don't have any, but you will need to decide, if they do, whether you will accept them or not.  Interestingly, my two pair of Semi Dress boots, which should be more about looks, had small things wrong that I noticed.  My Smoke Jumpers had absolutely nothing I could find on them...luck, I guess.

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