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post #7741 of 8711

Since distressed leather from White's Boots was difficult to visualize for me, I thought I'd post these for someone else.  The false tongue is brown bull hide.  The two-tone look makes for a very hansom boot. 

 

I ordered this boot though Baker's.  I was a little worried when they suggested a 10EE because 10 wasn't a number I had heard in a long time.  I expected an 11, but it fit's perfectly as a 10EE.  I had heard that the 'standard' last is the most snug, and hence for me, a more athletic boot.  That's true, and when I first put them on I was a little worried about just how snug they were.  I'm about 80 hours into the boots right now and they feel great.  Snug, but not tight and mostly broken in around the ball and ankle.  They've got a way to go, but I'm enjoying the boot.  My foot likes a lot of arch support and these boots have plenty.  I'm very happy so far.

 

White's Smoke Jumper Standard Last

    •    Leather 1: Distressed Smooth
    •    Leather 2: Brown Bull Hide
    •    Toe Vamp Leather: Distressed Smooth
    •    Toe Cap Leather: Distressed Smooth
    •    Celastic Toe Box: Single
    •    Safety Toe: No Thanks
    •    Heel Counter Leather: Distressed Smooth
    •    Height: 10"
    •    Upper (Shaft) Leather : Distressed Smooth
    •    Leather Liner: No Thanks
    •    Sole Trim: Standard Trim
    •    Top: Cut
    •    Back Stay Leather: Distressed Smooth
    •    Pull Loop: Yes
    •    Eyelet Color: Antique
    •    Eyelet Configuration : Hook and Eyelet
    •    Top Garment: Hook
    •    Lace Design: Plain Toe
    •    Lace: Leather
    •    False Tongue: Brown Bull Hide
    •    Sole: Vib 100
    •    Half Slip: No
    •    Heel Shape: Curve
    •    Heel Height: Standard
    •    Last: Standard
    •    Midsole: Standard
    •    Midsole/Edge Color: Brown
    •    Size - Length: 11 <--- this was my guess to Baker's but I told them to make it right according to the drawings and measurements and for White's, mine is a 10.
    •    Size - Width: E  <--- this was my guess to Baker's as well.  For White's, I'm a EE.

 

Before and after one coat of obenauf's LP.   These boots will get wet and muddy all the time and so a light coat of LP will be good.  I probably won't need more LP for some time.  The very dark brown evened out to a much lighter shade within about 12 hours.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is after the 80 hour mark and freshly brushed.

 

 


Edited by marcusg - 12/25/15 at 4:47pm
post #7742 of 8711

@marcusg - thanks for your review of your SJs, I found it very helpful. I'm on the verge of ordering my first White's  from Bakers and , like you, I'm leaning towards distressed smooth. A couple questions:

Did you choose a different leather for the gusset tongue to make it easier for break-in? After your experience, would ordering that same distressed smooth for the tongue make it too thick/stiff?

How do you feel about a 10-inch shaft? I'm more inclined towards an 8-inch one. Could you comment on the comfort and support with your boot?

If you have more pictures of them please post them too. I'd like to see more of the new boot, the Obenauf'd look, and the 80-hour look.

Thanks a lot.

post #7743 of 8711

I didn't even know a different gusset leather was possible.  All of my boot is 'distressed smooth' except the false tongue which is 'brown bull hide'.  I put a very thin coat of LP on my boots when they were new and the only thing I would do differently is I'd OIL just the gusset tongue more thoroughly but I'd definitely stay with the 'distressed smooth' for the leather itself.  When you put your hands on it, it's thicker, but once oiled thoroughly, it's much softer and more supple.  This leather feels super durable.

 

I've seen the gussets that ship with 'brown smooth' SJs and the gusset leather is thinner and MUCH softer right out of the box.  Like I said, I wouldn't trade what I have. 

post #7744 of 8711
nice boots man. been loving the distressed smooth as well and i'm around the 80 hour mark. mine have a little ways to go in the ankle but they're basically there. always used chelsea leather food since my days of caring for kangaroo leather football boots, but my container of it is getting low, so i got some obenauf's and cedar shoe trees on the way.
post #7745 of 8711
Quote:
Originally Posted by JakeVooDoo View Post
 

 

 

Apparently, my custom order with Bakers (submitted to Whites Nov 2, 2015) won't be ready till the first part of February. Bakers called Whites, and found out that the sole I chose Vibram 296 are back ordered, and the soonest I would receive them is the Jan/Feb time frame. I've had to reset my expectations and remain calm for another 5 weeks. 

 

 

Zachery Zhu, 

Your boots look amazing, I started off my Whites order thinking I was going to get something similar to your's but since I'm going to be using them for just walking around 75% of the time switched gears to Bounty Hunters SD Last. Very curious to see how well they work for you once you break them in. 


I recognize that pic, as its taken against my wall! If you see my sole now, you will regret ordering it. The 296, or isn't it 269, start to shred along those lines, as I and many others have reported. No idea what the backlog is about - but its one of the least durable soles out there IMHO. Search for pics of the spreading and make your decision...

post #7746 of 8711

I've got a pair of 8" distressed smooth BHs - they are my go to work/hiking boot. The gusset tongue is distressed smooth but of a thinner variety than the rest of the boot, as is commonly done. I find the 8" plenty supportive. They were fantastic on my hikes in the White Mts. this summer. The boots are very comfortable and I didn't find the break in that bad at all. 

 

Here's a pic of them from this summer:

 

 

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by motojobobo View Post
 

@marcusg - thanks for your review of your SJs, I found it very helpful. I'm on the verge of ordering my first White's  from Bakers and , like you, I'm leaning towards distressed smooth. A couple questions:

Did you choose a different leather for the gusset tongue to make it easier for break-in? After your experience, would ordering that same distressed smooth for the tongue make it too thick/stiff?

How do you feel about a 10-inch shaft? I'm more inclined towards an 8-inch one. Could you comment on the comfort and support with your boot?

If you have more pictures of them please post them too. I'd like to see more of the new boot, the Obenauf'd look, and the 80-hour look.

Thanks a lot.

post #7747 of 8711

This happened to my 269s also - oddly on just one of the two boots. I won't be ordering them again.

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizawaguy View Post
 


I recognize that pic, as its taken against my wall! If you see my sole now, you will regret ordering it. The 296, or isn't it 269, start to shred along those lines, as I and many others have reported. No idea what the backlog is about - but its one of the least durable soles out there IMHO. Search for pics of the spreading and make your decision...

post #7748 of 8711
Quote:
Originally Posted by daizawaguy View Post
 


I recognize that pic, as its taken against my wall! If you see my sole now, you will regret ordering it. The 296, or isn't it 269, start to shred along those lines, as I and many others have reported. No idea what the backlog is about - but its one of the least durable soles out there IMHO. Search for pics of the spreading and make your decision...

                 

 

 

 

                                 ------------------------------------HELP - QUESTION------------------------------------------

             What is the best Vibram sole for an athletic 'Bakers Bounty Hunters' that are flexible, but durable? 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm thinking the 268, or 127, but leaning toward the 430. Any suggestions on insight on the Vibram sole would be appreciated. My sole is a single thickness and I Live in CA, so no issues or concern with snow and traction. I originally started with the Vibram 435 Half sole, but switched to 269 after reading issues with half soles. Was I wrong to switch, and what vibram's can work with business casual. 

--------------------------------------------

 

 

WOW, just did some research on the Vibram 269 and I definitely want to trade out the sole.(due to Spreading issues, and holding up my custom Whites for another 4 weeks) Thanks daizawaguy and spurs61 for your insight into having the 269, will try to get the sole replace with another Vibram with Bakers. Did you trade out the 269 on a repair? What did you go too? What Vibrams do you LIKE?

 

 

!Thanks again!

 

Little research I found through google.

 

Vibram Catalog:

http://www.vipshoerestorers.com/pdf/Vibram-catalog.pdf

 

Love/Hate thread on Vibram:

https://www.reddit.com/r/goodyearwelt/comments/1w4oje/lovehate_thread_jan_25_2014_sole_options/


Edited by JakeVooDoo - 12/26/15 at 8:02am
post #7749 of 8711

For my purposes, I like the 430, though some have complained about problems with it (I haven't seen any myself). I like the 700 as well, though it offers a bit less in terms of traction. I've just ordered a pair with the composition half sole, which I wanted for a slightly more dressy look. We'll see how it comes out ...

 

 

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeVooDoo View Post
 

                 

 

 

 

                                 ------------------------------------HELP - QUESTION------------------------------------------

             What is the best Vibram sole for an athletic 'Bakers Bounty Hunters' that are flexible, but durable? 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm thinking the 268, or 127, but leaning toward the 430. Any suggestions on insight on the Vibram sole would be appreciated. My sole is a single thickness and I Live in CA, so no issues or concern with snow and traction. I originally started with the Vibram 435 Half sole, but switched to 269 after reading issues with half soles. Was I wrong to switch, and what vibram's can work with business casual. 

--------------------------------------------

 

 

WOW, just did some research on the Vibram 269 and I definitely want to trade out the sole.(due to Spreading issues, and holding up my custom Whites for another 4 weeks) Thanks daizawaguy and spurs61 for your insight into having the 269, will try to get the sole replace with another Vibram with Bakers. Did you trade out the 269 on a repair? What did you go too? What Vibrams do you LIKE?

 

 

!Thanks again!

 

Little research I found through google.

 

Vibram Catalog:

http://www.vipshoerestorers.com/pdf/Vibram-catalog.pdf

 

Love/Hate thread on Vibram:

https://www.reddit.com/r/goodyearwelt/comments/1w4oje/lovehate_thread_jan_25_2014_sole_options/

post #7750 of 8711
700 on mine have a nice clean profile but good traction on smooth wet surfaces and people say they last a while.
post #7751 of 8711
Quote:
Originally Posted by motojobobo View Post
How do you feel about a 10-inch shaft?

I notice flex marks in the shaft all the way up to 8in.  So I don't know if the 8in boot will give you the same ankle support as a 10in boot.  It probably does, but I just opted to get the 10.  Cheers.


Edited by marcusg - 12/28/15 at 10:12am
post #7752 of 8711
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whirling View Post

I am so glad! It is my pleaure to help when I can.
Hey Whirling, the nicks' lacing method really helped me out. It's much more comfortable now. Than you for sharing ur experience!!
post #7753 of 8711
Quote:
Originally Posted by marcusg View Post

I notice flex marks in the shaft all the way up to 8in.  So I don't know if the 8in boot will give you the same ankle support as a 10in boot.  I'm glad I got the 10.  Cheers.
I just got my 10'' wesco job master and an old 8'' smoke jumper. I feel the arch support is the same, and 8'' is easily to walk. Maybe it is because I didn't break in my wesco.
post #7754 of 8711
Quote:
Originally Posted by JakeVooDoo View Post
 

                 

 

 

 

                                 ------------------------------------HELP - QUESTION------------------------------------------

             What is the best Vibram sole for an athletic 'Bakers Bounty Hunters' that are flexible, but durable? 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm thinking the 268, or 127, but leaning toward the 430. Any suggestions on insight on the Vibram sole would be appreciated. My sole is a single thickness and I Live in CA, so no issues or concern with snow and traction. I originally started with the Vibram 435 Half sole, but switched to 269 after reading issues with half soles. Was I wrong to switch, and what vibram's can work with business casual. 

--------------------------------------------

 

 

WOW, just did some research on the Vibram 269 and I definitely want to trade out the sole.(due to Spreading issues, and holding up my custom Whites for another 4 weeks) Thanks daizawaguy and spurs61 for your insight into having the 269, will try to get the sole replace with another Vibram with Bakers. Did you trade out the 269 on a repair? What did you go too? What Vibrams do you LIKE?

 

 

!Thanks again!

 

Little research I found through google.

 

Vibram Catalog:

http://www.vipshoerestorers.com/pdf/Vibram-catalog.pdf

 

Love/Hate thread on Vibram:

https://www.reddit.com/r/goodyearwelt/comments/1w4oje/lovehate_thread_jan_25_2014_sole_options/

For me the 700 is king. Indestructible. Next the 100 if you want grip from the lugs. Enjoy your boots

post #7755 of 8711
Can anyone tell me the difference of smoke jumpers between White's and Hathorn's? I mean their standard black smooth leather ones shown as below.


The first one is white's, and the second one is Hathorn's. I can't tell the difference by liking the outter appearance. I know Hathorn's doesn't have arch support. This is the only difference for these two pairs?? What about the quality of leather or stitching? I,myself, assume they use same quality oiled leather.
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