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post #7576 of 8716

1) I've got brown dress SDs with a celastic toe and brown dress BHs without. Not a huge difference between the two, but I like the feel of the noncelastic toe best. The toes haven't collapsed but I would admit that the celastic toe looks a little dressier.

 

2) For me brown dress looks great with the brown edge. I can't really imagine black would go well, but like you haven't actually seen the combo (maybe there's a reason).

 

3) The heel is really a matter of taste and preference.

 

I think the build looks great!

 

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Originally Posted by broken_oracle View Post

woah! 10% off on custom builds at Baker's this Monday is making me put together an order fast. Would like this pair to be a bit dressier than my Smooth Distressed no-celastic captoe 6" Swing Last Bounty Hunters I wear at work daily.

Thinking all Brown Dress SDs on Swing Last (feet bones hafta wear that, sorry Haters), all antique brass eyelets, close trim, Cuban heel dropped 1/4", 700 sole (the 430 soles on my BHs have begun to squeak like hell, very annoying, would like to try a composite sole instead).

Questions are:

1) Celastic or no? Not sure how the Brown Dress collapses over time, if celastic caps even fit the Swing Last, or if the edge of the celastic cap will make itself visible over time in the way the Brown Dress patinas.
2) Brown or Black edge dressing? Girlfriend thinks the black would look better, not sure if I agree (and can't find any pix of brown dress with black edging to consider).

3) Do the 1/4" dropped Cuban heel, or have Baker's close-trim a 1/4" dropped block heel? (kind of like East-West's brown dress White's boots)

All your thoughts are appreciated, the clock ticks! I figure better to drop $400 & 6 weeks on a custom pair than $522 on a factory set of Alden Indys this weekend... Gotta get a backup pair of boots ASAP before I send my only White's in for a possible resoling/definite re-heel-capping
post #7577 of 8716
Sorry, where to find the 10% discount? Thanks
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Originally Posted by broken_oracle View Post

woah! 10% off on custom builds at Baker's this Monday is making me put together an order fast. Would like this pair to be a bit dressier than my Smooth Distressed no-celastic captoe 6" Swing Last Bounty Hunters I wear at work daily.

Thinking all Brown Dress SDs on Swing Last (feet bones hafta wear that, sorry Haters), all antique brass eyelets, close trim, Cuban heel dropped 1/4", 700 sole (the 430 soles on my BHs have begun to squeak like hell, very annoying, would like to try a composite sole instead).

Questions are:

1) Celastic or no? Not sure how the Brown Dress collapses over time, if celastic caps even fit the Swing Last, or if the edge of the celastic cap will make itself visible over time in the way the Brown Dress patinas.

2) Brown or Black edge dressing? Girlfriend thinks the black would look better, not sure if I agree (and can't find any pix of brown dress with black edging to consider).

3) Do the 1/4" dropped Cuban heel, or have Baker's close-trim a 1/4" dropped block heel? (kind of like East-West's brown dress White's boots)

All your thoughts are appreciated, the clock ticks! I figure better to drop $400 & 6 weeks on a custom pair than $522 on a factory set of Alden Indys this weekend... Gotta get a backup pair of boots ASAP before I send my only White's in for a possible resoling/definite re-heel-capping
post #7578 of 8716

Just received my second pair of white's. 

6inch Bounty Hunter.

Brown dress and toffee dress. 

Close trim. Cut top.

Cuban heel, standard height. 

 

When I first put on the boots, oh man, it was so uncomfortable.

I am not sure whether I was getting used on wearing my 2 months old SD on C461 last and lower 1/4 inch height. 

The feel is totally different, the heel drop is so significant. 

I hope the footbed will mold to my feet and the heel drop would lower with longer wear . 

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #7579 of 8716
This is gorgeous!
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Originally Posted by hkpm View Post

Just received my second pair of white's. 
6inch Bounty Hunter.
Brown dress and toffee dress. 
Close trim. Cut top.
Cuban heel, standard height. 

When I first put on the boots, oh man, it was so uncomfortable.
I am not sure whether I was getting used on wearing my 2 months old SD on C461 last and lower 1/4 inch height. 
The feel is totally different, the heel drop is so significant. 
I hope the footbed will mold to my feet and the heel drop would lower with longer wear . 















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post #7580 of 8716
Man, I love your toffee. Unlucky that i just placed new order for SD.
post #7581 of 8716
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Originally Posted by Zachery Zhu View Post

I'm considering to build a smoke jumper from Baker. But there are still a few things I need you guys for advice.

1. Plane toe, red dog oiled as toe, counter and back parts. Black dress for shaft. My questions is: is red dog oiled strong and can do last long than Chromexcel #8? And is black Chromexel or smooth better for shaft?

2. I didn't decide yet whether 8 inch or 10 inch, maybe 9 inch. Can you guys give your opinion. I've already I have a bunch of 6 inch boots.

3. Which last should I build on? C461 or #38 swing? Which one looks better for a 8 inch and 10 inch boot with my choice of colour of leather? I will use Vibram 430 sole and single midsole and single toecap.

Is there any bro can help me?
post #7582 of 8716


I have never seen "toffee dress" mentioned before and I can't find it on White's nor Baker's website, is it new? It sure looks beautiful.

post #7583 of 8716

I'll try ... 

 

1) Yes, I would say red dog is strong and would wear tougher than CXL #8. I would go with black CXL on the shaft for comfort but black smooth for toughness.

 

2) You'll have to make the call on the height issue. It just depends on your preference.

 

3) Which last you choose depends on your foot and what you prefer. If it were me, I'd discuss this with Kyle at Baker's or whomever you're buying from. You can send tracings of your feet to Kyle or to White's and they can give their best advice on sizing and lasts. Or, they can make recommendations based on your experience with other models of boots and shoes (though this is less scientific).

 

 

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Originally Posted by Zachery Zhu View Post


Is there any bro can help me?
post #7584 of 8716

I have a pair of 8" farmer ranchers in brown smooth and the increased height makes the ankle support really intense. As in I can't make my ankles rotate inward hardly at all. Which is great for walking/hiking/etc but if you have to do a lot of squeezing into places the boots really are a lot less flexible the higher you go. Unless you absolutely must have 10" boots I would go for 8".

 

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Originally Posted by Zachery Zhu View Post


Is there any bro can help me?
post #7585 of 8716

I should introduce myself: I've been lurking here a while and recently got a pair of black chromexel semi-dress boots - my first White's. They are breaking in nicely! 

 

dtodd


Edited by dtodd - 11/30/15 at 2:52pm
post #7586 of 8716
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Originally Posted by Zachery Zhu View Post

Is there any bro can help me?

Height- I have one pair of 8" whites (farmer rancher) and 2 pairs of 10" whites (1 farmer rancher and one outdoorsman) . I also have a 5" whites (SD) and other 6" and 8" and 10" boots from other makers. Personally, I don't find the 10" to be uncomfortable, but it is overkill except in a waterproof boot (like whites outdoorsman), where it really ensures you will not get water in your boots. The other 10" pair of whites I own is comfortable enough, but there's no added benefit to the height, and it is a bit of a hassle to lace. 5" in my opinion is a little short, being slightly less comfortable than a 6" due to the position of the edge near the ankle bone. 6" and 8" are equally comfortable and neither are much hassle to lace, but there is a bit more support on an 8". I don't notice more ankle support on a 10" over 8". Only benefit I can think of is protecting your leg while riding a motorcycle through brush, or something like that.

Leather- my 10" whites farmer are chromexcel, and I would have to argue that it's a tougher leather than the red dog or other standard calf leathers. It is very much a work leather, as it'll scuff up and look rugged, but it's tough. From what I understand the chromexcel leather was originally created to use for sealant in engines and industrial machinery, and later adapted for consumer use, so I think toughness was its primary design focus. It has a slight sheen like its got a coat of wax, but the color won't polish up evenly once scuffed the way the standard calf leathers do. It's a nice look though, just not as clean.

Can't help you on the lasts
post #7587 of 8716
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Originally Posted by PaintSplattered View Post
 


Ok, I said I'd get pictures of mine so here they are:

 


Black smooth a.k.a. black oil tan leather takes a beathing and cleans up well.  These boots were scrubbed hard and treated with Obenauf's oil on Tuesday.  They needed it.  As you can see from the side of the sole and the heel stack, they have been used hard, but the uppers are still going strong.  I have a pair of bullhide cowboy boots I rotate these with now, but as you can see they have taken the shape of my feet wonderfully.  I was measured for these and I couldn't be happier with the fit.  The laces come together close on the right boot because my right foot is lower in volume than my left at that spot.  

 

These are work boots for me, and if I wanted something dressier I'd get the same model and measurements with leather soles.  Only problem would be picking a leather. So many nice choices.

 

Extremely satisfied with these.

These look great! I'm interested in a pair of packers, in one of the more scuff-resistant leathers. I'm curious which toe shape this is. I'm also curious about how the heel-sole combination on the packers works for you. I believe the packers have the highest arch/heel-drop in the White's lineup... how are they for walking? How does that heel work out when you dress up a bit? 

post #7588 of 8716
Just placed a custom Semi-Dress order with Kyle at Baker's, 10% discount code "cyber2015" definitely works.
post #7589 of 8716

Thank you very much Spurs61. I followed your recommendation to with black cxl for shaft. and I ordered 10 inch and C461 last. I will update once I get them.

post #7590 of 8716
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Originally Posted by dxn2 View Post
 

Just bought a pair of semi dress in brown.  I impulse bought these online and didn't do my usual research before buying.  I ordered a half size down from my usual shoe size.  The boots seem to fit ok but are not very snug.  There is a slight heel lift which I'm hoping will go away after break in (which I don't expect to take very long as they seem pretty wearable out of the box).  

 

I don't have much experience with boots.  My foot measures 11" from heel to longest toe.  That is what the inside of the boot measures but somehow I have plenty of room in the toe box.  Just wondering if over time these will become looser.  They are not at all uncomfortable but I feel like they should be a little more snug.

 

Would love to hear from anyone that has had a similar experience.  Did I jump the gun and buy a size too big. 

I also bought my CXL SDs on-line w/o any Whites or Bakers measurements. The length is fine [1/2 size down], but I also feel they are a little too wide. They are a D width and I had always felt I had a normal width foot. Maybe so, but in the SD last, a C would definitely fit me better. The good news is that as they break in [and they do break in a little more] you can lace them tighter and take up a little of the slop.

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