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post #7411 of 8711
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Originally Posted by linafelt View Post

Trying out brown laces with my black boots. Not sure how I feel about it.

Not really feeling the dark brown, but a lighter brown or tan might be nice - a little more contrast.
post #7412 of 8711
Still deciding on the make up for my first pair (or maybe two pairs) of White's. White's was kind enough to send me some leather samples on two different occasions, but I'm a little confused as to what I have. On The first occasion I had them send me some samples of black leathers. One was thick, flexible, and somewhat dull in finish.


On The second occasion I had some brown leathers sent. According to the invoice, one is brown oil tan, and one is red dog oil tan.



Both of these seem a little thinner, stiffer, and a bit shinier than the aforementioned black sample.


My question is, what is the black sample. How do these samples translate to the terms used on Baker's BuildABoot website? Smooth? Dress?
post #7413 of 8711
Oil tan = smooth (red dog, brown or black)
I think all three samples are the smooth aka oil tan leathers. The dress leathers would be thinner. In your samples, the black one happens to be the thickest, but I don't think this is representative of the actual boots made from these leathers.
The thickness and flexibility of the leather is not uniform across the whole hide, and the leather samples are probably cut from scrap pieces which can be from any portion of a hide. So you will have some variation, I guess.
post #7414 of 8711

I appreciate the feedback I have received on this thread.  I will never be able to make a work boot look as trim, beautiful, and professional as a Dalton or Carmina, but I am on a quest to make a work boot look as professional as possible.

 

I hope to contact Kyle at Bakers this week to discuss my options.  Based upon the feedback I have received, I am leaning towards a Nicks.  More specifically, I will be exploring the following combination:

 

   Nicks Ranger

   Black Strap Leather

   8 inch shaft

   #2 toe (soft, not reinforced)

   Simple toe cap (not medallion)

   Dogger heel

   Mini Vibram sole (430)

   Close trim

   Black edging

   Eyes all the way up the shaft (no hooks)

   Black hardware (eyes)

   No logo stamped on the shaft

   Cut the kilties off of the tongue protector

 

Fans of Nicks boots will probably notice how similar this combination will be to a Roberts boot.  One of my first questions for Kyle will be whether it will be easier to modify a Ranger or modify a Roberts.

 

I realize that this combination isn't for everyone.  I also realize that this is a White's thread so the details on a Nicks order are a little out of place.  However, I felt it would be ungrateful to incorporate your advice without acknowledging how much it influenced my decisions.

 

Thanks again for the feedback.

post #7415 of 8711
Thank you for your help. I'll call Kyle tomorrow and place my order(s)! Can't wait!
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Originally Posted by TH3515 View Post

Oil tan = smooth (red dog, brown or black)
I think all three samples are the smooth aka oil tan leathers. The dress leathers would be thinner. In your samples, the black one happens to be the thickest, but I don't think this is representative of the actual boots made from these leathers.
The thickness and flexibility of the leather is not uniform across the whole hide, and the leather samples are probably cut from scrap pieces which can be from any portion of a hide. So you will have some variation, I guess.
post #7416 of 8711

Yes, the "heavy duty" label is relative. Compared to my Red Wing boots (Iron Rangers & 875s) and Alden Indys, the White's SDs are definitely more substantial and "heavy duty." I would agree with linafelt that my CXL SDs feel a bit lighter than my BHs though. This is especially true of my lined distressed smooth BHs, which feel the most "heavy duty" of all my White's. The double sole option on White's boots would be considerably hefty I would imagine (never tried them), truly a bear to break in.

 

Comparing White's to regular dress shoes and sneakers is truly comparing apples and oranges (totally different animals). Even my Baker's oxfords by White's are way more substantial than other shoes.

 

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Originally Posted by phidauex View Post


Sure, and I suppose "heavy duty" is a matter of perspective and comparison. But for someone used to wearing normal shoes, nearly any White's would feel like a big substantial boot. What each person needs for their work or pleasure can vary a lot.
post #7417 of 8711

And the winning build is ...?

 

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Originally Posted by FeloniousMonk12 View Post

Thank you for your help. I'll call Kyle tomorrow and place my order(s)! Can't wait!
post #7418 of 8711
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Originally Posted by BlackenedRidge View Post

I appreciate the feedback I have received on this thread.  I will never be able to make a work boot look as trim, beautiful, and professional as a Dalton or Carmina, but I am on a quest to make a work boot look as professional as possible.

I hope to contact Kyle at Bakers this week to discuss my options.  Based upon the feedback I have received, I am leaning towards a Nicks.  More specifically, I will be exploring the following combination:

   Nicks Ranger
   Black Strap Leather
   8 inch shaft
   #2 toe (soft, not reinforced)
   Simple toe cap (not medallion)
   Dogger heel
   Mini Vibram sole (430)
   Close trim
   Black edging
   Eyes all the way up the shaft (no hooks)
   Black hardware (eyes)
   No logo stamped on the shaft
   Cut the kilties off of the tongue protector

Fans of Nicks boots will probably notice how similar this combination will be to a Roberts boot.  One of my first questions for Kyle will be whether it will be easier to modify a Ranger or modify a Roberts.

I realize that this combination isn't for everyone.  I also realize that this is a White's thread so the details on a Nicks order are a little out of place.  However, I felt it would be ungrateful to incorporate your advice without acknowledging how much it influenced my decisions.

Sounds like a great build! Nicks makes a fine boot as well. Make sure you post pics over on the Nick's thread as it comes in.
post #7419 of 8711
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Originally Posted by spurs61 View Post

Yes, the "heavy duty" label is relative. Compared to my Red Wing boots (Iron Rangers & 875s) and Alden Indys, the White's SDs are definitely more substantial and "heavy duty." I would agree with linafelt that my CXL SDs feel a bit lighter than my BHs though. This is especially true of my lined distressed smooth BHs, which feel the most "heavy duty" of all my White's. The double sole option on White's boots would be considerably hefty I would imagine (never tried them), truly a bear to break in.

Comparing White's to regular dress shoes and sneakers is truly comparing apples and oranges (totally different animals). Even my Baker's oxfords by White's are way more substantial than other shoes.

Very true. In fact, I think the only boot I've ever seen that is truly more heavy duty than a pair of Smoke Jumpers is my friend's Baffins designed for arctic oil rig workers. They fully cover the calf (probably 16-18" tall), double insulated, rubber jacketed, steel toe, steel shank, steel metatarsal guard. Pretty intense footwear. Don't look half as good as a pair of Whites though. wink.gif
post #7420 of 8711
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Originally Posted by BlackenedRidge View Post

I appreciate the feedback I have received on this thread.  I will never be able to make a work boot look as trim, beautiful, and professional as a Dalton or Carmina, but I am on a quest to make a work boot look as professional as possible.

I hope to contact Kyle at Bakers this week to discuss my options.  Based upon the feedback I have received, I am leaning towards a Nicks.  More specifically, I will be exploring the following combination:

   Nicks Ranger
   Black Strap Leather
   8 inch shaft
   #2 toe (soft, not reinforced)
   Simple toe cap (not medallion)
   Dogger heel
   Mini Vibram sole (430)
   Close trim
   Black edging
   Eyes all the way up the shaft (no hooks)
   Black hardware (eyes)
   No logo stamped on the shaft
   Cut the kilties off of the tongue protector

Fans of Nicks boots will probably notice how similar this combination will be to a Roberts boot.  One of my first questions for Kyle will be whether it will be easier to modify a Ranger or modify a Roberts.

I realize that this combination isn't for everyone.  I also realize that this is a White's thread so the details on a Nicks order are a little out of place.  However, I felt it would be ungrateful to incorporate your advice without acknowledging how much it influenced my decisions.

Thanks again for the feedback.

I have a pair of White's Packers with the pointed thoroughbred toe in Black Smooth leather. I also have a rather narrow foot, and my Packers are a 10C due to the toe shape. In Bounty Hunters I take a 9.5 D. The Packers do look kind of like cowboy boots, and I think they look fine with more informal dress pants and casual sportcoats. They might work okay with a casual suit.
post #7421 of 8711
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Originally Posted by spurs61 View Post

And the winning build is ...?

Ha! I forgot to check back here at SF for a couple of days. The winning builds will be announced here on Monday at the latest, just as soon as I finish making up my mind...
:-)

So many leathers... so many options...
post #7422 of 8711

Question for the experts,

I recently came across a pair of semi dress that is a half size smaller than I normally take, (8 vs. 8.5) same width though. I bought them because they were too good a deal to pass up and was thinking I could just do thinner socks and it would be fine...

 

Well, the issue isn't the length per se, my toes still have plenty of room, and the widest part of my foot still matches up with the widest part of the boot, but the issue is that the arch support is too far back under my heel. My question for the experts is if I continue to wear and break in the boots will this issue go away as the arch support molds to my feet, or am I kidding myself and I should just resell and pass them off to someone they actually fit?

 

If its the latter, hit me up with offers for a basically brand new pair of black horsehide semi dress in 8EE, dress cap toe, vibram 700 sole standard heel.

post #7423 of 8711

Well, I do think the arch support in White's boots does flatten some with wear. But, I would be worried if the arch felt very out of place from the beginning. I bought a pair of Red Wing boots once off ebay and for some reason, even though they were my usual size, they didn't feel quite right (too narrow in the arch area). I convinced myself that they would stretch out with use and wore them outside. After a year, they still pinch me in the arch and I don't wear them very much. 

 

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Originally Posted by ThatDudeOrion View Post
 

Question for the experts,

I recently came across a pair of semi dress that is a half size smaller than I normally take, (8 vs. 8.5) same width though. I bought them because they were too good a deal to pass up and was thinking I could just do thinner socks and it would be fine...

 

Well, the issue isn't the length per se, my toes still have plenty of room, and the widest part of my foot still matches up with the widest part of the boot, but the issue is that the arch support is too far back under my heel. My question for the experts is if I continue to wear and break in the boots will this issue go away as the arch support molds to my feet, or am I kidding myself and I should just resell and pass them off to someone they actually fit?

 

If its the latter, hit me up with offers for a basically brand new pair of black horsehide semi dress in 8EE, dress cap toe, vibram 700 sole standard heel.

post #7424 of 8711

Anyone have a picture or link of Whites in British Tan after some wear - maybe a year or so?

post #7425 of 8711
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Originally Posted by FeloniousMonk12 View Post

I am thinking of buying my first pair of White's boots. I am a warehouse manager and spend 10 to 12 hours a day on my feet on concrete floors. Any thoughts on the suitability and comfort of these boots under these conditions? Also, I'm looking at going with bullhide leather. Can anyone describe the durability and abrasion resistance of bullhide?

Rough out leather with 2021 or Cristy soles. You can thank me later! I want to just ad that I work for a living so I'm speaking from my experience.smile.gif
Edited by manasota - 10/20/15 at 2:12pm
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