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@EastWestApparel:  I haven't noticed as much talk about the C461 last and the classic work boot.  I searched for examples of it and was pleasantly surprised.  I like it for many of the same reasons I like the bounty hunter with the added benefit that the toe box might be a little smaller.  What would you recommend I do for the upturned toe?  Would it make sense to raise the heel by a quarter of an inch (to lower the toe)?

post #7397 of 9406
Guess you could, might help with your arch and can't imagine that would be taller than you're packer heel.
post #7398 of 9406

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post #7399 of 9406
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Originally Posted by BlackenedRidge View Post
 

@EastWestApparel:  I haven't noticed as much talk about the C461 last and the classic work boot.  I searched for examples of it and was pleasantly surprised.  I like it for many of the same reasons I like the bounty hunter with the added benefit that the toe box might be a little smaller.  What would you recommend I do for the upturned toe?  Would it make sense to raise the heel by a quarter of an inch (to lower the toe)?


I have a pair of the CWB's and I don't find the toe to be such an "upturn" that it wouldn't work with a suit.  They are a rather "substantial" boot though.  They do look like work boots.  However, I don't even own a suit so my opinion is biased.  The arch in my CWB's is by far the "least" noticeable compared to my standard SJ's and my swing last,6" SJ's.  Having flat feet I find the SJ's a little on the harsh side sometimes although still very comforatable while the Swing Lasted SJ's are perfect in the arch and while the CWB's arch is almost not noticeable, it's still there.

 

What about the Dress Black leather in a pair of semi-dress for your application?  It seems to me that would be about as good as it gets with a suit.

post #7400 of 9406
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Originally Posted by trvlr472 View Post
 


I have a pair of the CWB's and I don't find the toe to be such an "upturn" that it wouldn't work with a suit.  They are a rather "substantial" boot though.  They do look like work boots.  However, I don't even own a suit so my opinion is biased.  The arch in my CWB's is by far the "least" noticeable compared to my standard SJ's and my swing last,6" SJ's.  Having flat feet I find the SJ's a little on the harsh side sometimes although still very comforatable while the Swing Lasted SJ's are perfect in the arch and while the CWB's arch is almost not noticeable, it's still there.

 

What about the Dress Black leather in a pair of semi-dress for your application?  It seems to me that would be about as good as it gets with a suit.

I currently rotate between four boots: dress black (Hathorn packers), dress brown (Georgia packers), casual black (Danner Flashpoint), and casual brown (Keen Milwaukee).  My "go to" boots are my black Hathorn packers and my brown Keen Milwaukees. 

 

My brown Georgia packers look fabulous.  Their patina and shape are gorgeous - albeit a little too western for some settings.  Unfortunately, the flexible single leather sole and lightweight leather severely limits their utility.  They simply don't provide enough support to haul my 250 pound carcass 5 miles - particularly if the surface I'm walking on is not smooth and firm.  White's description of the semi-dress conjures up similar images for me.  The White's website describes the semi-dress using terms like "light utility shoe", "single, flexible oak leather sole", and "mid-weight leather upper".  Although the semi-dress is beautiful, I suspect that it won't be substantial enough to meet my needs.

 

My casual brown Keen Milwaukee boots, in contrast, are hideous and heavy.  However, the thick full-grain leather coupled with the thick soles make them comfortable for miles.  I have walked 16 miles in those boots in one day and my feet have been ready to go again the next morning.  Unfortunately, the toe of that boot is so large and ugly that I feel uncomfortable wearing those boots in an office setting.

 

My Hathorn packers are not quite as comfortable as my Keens because they simply don't fit as well.  However, with that packer, White's was able to provide all of the substance and support of a meaty boot in a package small enough to fit into a stirrup.  White's definitely got my attention with that boot.  Now I'm exploring White's options to find the optimal combination of look and substance so that I can order a made-to-measure boot.

 

Is it correct to infer that the semi-dress is not as substantial as the farmer rancher, bounty hunter, packer, etc.?

post #7401 of 9406
I am a metal fabricator and I wear the semi dress to work every day. I have a steel toe in British tan and water buffalo. Trust me, they are substantial. They are the heaviest pair of boots I own in their particular height. Of course I have knee high steel toes that weigh more but my White's are plenty tough. I'm on my feet all day. I have been doing this for twenty years and these are the best work boots I've ever had. That being said, I wouldn't wear them with a suit. If they were black and shiny and had the closer cut on the edge, maybe. Depends on the work environment. Why are you walking so far, anyway? Remember when professional women used to always wear business suits and running shoes on the way to work and then change into their good shoes at work? Never was a fan of that look.
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I agree with Warpiper.  My Semi-Dress boots are very well made and comfortable.  They're chromexcel though so they do scuff very easily.  No way would I ever wear them with a suit.  Sorry, none of the Whites - especially not SDs are "dress boots".  They look great with jeans.  They look poor with a suit.  If I want to wear boots with my suit, I'll wear my AE Daltons - that's about as casual as I'd get with a boot for a suit and even that is pushing it a bit.

 

If I were wearing them as a work boot I certainly wouldn't get the CXL - I'd get a more substantial hide.  I do love the ability to customize the boots though - selecting the midsole color and the sole type is great.

 

My boot collection is small - I have Daltons, Whites SD and Alden Indys in CXL.  The Dalton's look the nicest for work.  The Indys look the best with jeans and get me the most compliments.  The whites are the most comfortable and the most customize-able.  The Daltons are the only pair I would even wear with my wool dress slacks, much less a suit.  I've seen some great looking Whites boots in this and other threads - but none of them work well with a suit IMO.  But, it's a matter of personal taste and style. 

post #7403 of 9406
Agree with the above with the caveat that it depends on the suit! A City suit will make it harder to pull off. Saying that though if you've been wearing packers then a semi dress would pass just as well. The Dress leather pattern is smarter looking than the SJ/ FR pattern and if it's close trimmed with a soft toe...
post #7404 of 9406
New White's Boots came today! Very excited - it was supposed to take a little over 6 weeks, but they arrived in just under 4. Here is a quick teaser: https://instagram.com/p/8oz_0xDtzX/

They are a steel toe Bounty Hunter build from Baker's Shoes (steel toe needed for work). Two-tone with red-dog oiled and brown oiled (which age to a more similar color), 7" height, Vibram 430 sole, cuban heel. Quality is killer of course, and they feel totally bomb-proof. Comparing them to any of my other boots feels like comparing my Iron Rangers to any of my dress shoes. And my old work boots (Timberland Pros) already seem gross and floppy by comparison. Looking forward to getting out in the field with these.

They are 6.5B based on Baker's sizing my tracings and foot measurements, and preliminarily they feel perfect. My brannock size is 6.5C, so these seem to fit pretty true to size. I wear a 5.5D Iron Ranger, and 6.5C Allen Edmonds #5 last. The flex point seems dead on, and the width is good for my narrow feet. The "arch ease" arch is high and odd feeling, but not painful. I'm going to trust for now that it does what people say it does and settles down with a little wear.

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a very nice looking boot.  enjoy for many years to come.  wore my newest pair all day today and 12 hrs later still feel great.  wish I knew about them years ago in the business I was in, not like now in retirement.

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Originally Posted by BlackenedRidge View Post
 

I currently rotate between four boots: dress black (Hathorn packers), dress brown (Georgia packers), casual black (Danner Flashpoint), and casual brown (Keen Milwaukee).  My "go to" boots are my black Hathorn packers and my brown Keen Milwaukees. 

 

My brown Georgia packers look fabulous.  Their patina and shape are gorgeous - albeit a little too western for some settings.  Unfortunately, the flexible single leather sole and lightweight leather severely limits their utility.  They simply don't provide enough support to haul my 250 pound carcass 5 miles - particularly if the surface I'm walking on is not smooth and firm.  White's description of the semi-dress conjures up similar images for me.  The White's website describes the semi-dress using terms like "light utility shoe", "single, flexible oak leather sole", and "mid-weight leather upper".  Although the semi-dress is beautiful, I suspect that it won't be substantial enough to meet my needs.

 

My casual brown Keen Milwaukee boots, in contrast, are hideous and heavy.  However, the thick full-grain leather coupled with the thick soles make them comfortable for miles.  I have walked 16 miles in those boots in one day and my feet have been ready to go again the next morning.  Unfortunately, the toe of that boot is so large and ugly that I feel uncomfortable wearing those boots in an office setting.

 

My Hathorn packers are not quite as comfortable as my Keens because they simply don't fit as well.  However, with that packer, White's was able to provide all of the substance and support of a meaty boot in a package small enough to fit into a stirrup.  White's definitely got my attention with that boot.  Now I'm exploring White's options to find the optimal combination of look and substance so that I can order a made-to-measure boot.

 

Is it correct to infer that the semi-dress is not as substantial as the farmer rancher, bounty hunter, packer, etc.?


I don't own any SD's, yet, but from what I have read they are quite sturdy.  They are a work boot.  If you need thick soles then maybe you could try out the double sole option Whites has with the SD's.  If they will build them that way.  The double sole does look even more like a work boot though.

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Originally Posted by trvlr472 View Post

I don't own any SD's, yet, but from what I have read they are quite sturdy.  They are a work boot.  If you need thick soles then maybe you could try out the double sole option Whites has with the SD's.  If they will build them that way.  The double sole does look even more like a work boot though.

White's boots range from "heavy duty" to "insanely heavy duty". The Semi-dress is their lightest boot, but it is probably heavier than most normal work boots. The smoke jumper adds a few larger panels, in particular a double heel counter, so it definitely goes up to "very heavy duty". Add a double midsole and a steel toe and you are in "zombie stomping" territory.

I would recommend the single sole for a work boot though - seriously - the double midsole is all about appearance (nothing wrong with that) but it does not bend. But my brother-in-law is a wildland firefighter who wears White's in the field, and all of theirs have the single midsole with the Vibram 100 sole - I have a hard time imagining anyone "needing" a heavier duty sole than that.
post #7408 of 9406
I will offer slightly dissenting voice and say that the first time I tried on a pair of semi dress (in CXL) they seemed quite a bit lighter than I expected. My BHs feel much more substantial. Of course, with oil tan leather, or fully lined, or double soled, etc, the SDs would no doubt feel heavier.
post #7409 of 9406
Trying out brown laces with my black boots. Not sure how I feel about it.
post #7410 of 9406
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I will offer slightly dissenting voice and say that the first time I tried on a pair of semi dress (in CXL) they seemed quite a bit lighter than I expected. My BHs feel much more substantial. Of course, with oil tan leather, or fully lined, or double soled, etc, the SDs would no doubt feel heavier.

Sure, and I suppose "heavy duty" is a matter of perspective and comparison. But for someone used to wearing normal shoes, nearly any White's would feel like a big substantial boot. What each person needs for their work or pleasure can vary a lot.
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