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post #4861 of 5040
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Originally Posted by jrosenthal View Post

Truly hardcore would wear Gripfast. I'm getting the impression that White's/Wesco/Nick's are for US Doc martens/Gripfast wearers who have grown up. Just as Loake and Trickers are the next graduation in the UK ;-)

James

Right! Though there was always a group of us that wore Red Wings or Caterpiller work boots; though I confess to finally buying a pair of doc Marten shoes in about 1992...
post #4862 of 5040

Thanks for the kind words about my boots above, guys. I've got a question for the group on laces, if anyone has a second. Trying to decide between leather and waxed cotton laces. Take a look at the picture, and let me know your thoughts...thanks!

 

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Also wanted to say, for anybody on the fence, I strongly urge you to the pull the trigger on a pair of White's. I've worn Wolverine 1K, OSB Trench, and several pairs of Redwings in my life, and I think White's is clearly head and shoulders above those brands. The boots themselves seem SO MUCH sturdier, and the fit is incredible.

 

FIT NOTE: I had always worn 11 or 11.5 D, but was told by Kyle at Baker's that I actually needed an F width (which is like 3 sizes wider than a D). I was skeptical just because I'd never been told that before (in 30 plus years!), but as soon as I slipped these on I realized I'd spent decades wearing shoes that were too tight, without even realizing it.

 

Anyway, construction, details, leather, customer service (from Baker's) are all outstanding...

post #4864 of 5040
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Originally Posted by dsthompson View Post

Thanks for the kind words about my boots above, guys. I've got a question for the group on laces, if anyone has a second. Trying to decide between leather and waxed cotton laces. Take a look at the picture, and let me know your thoughts...thanks!



My opinion. Leather all day long and twice on Sundays
post #4865 of 5040
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Originally Posted by dsthompson View Post

Thanks for the kind words about my boots above, guys. I've got a question for the group on laces, if anyone has a second. Trying to decide between leather and waxed cotton laces. Take a look at the picture, and let me know your thoughts...thanks!



It appears to be totally a matter of opinion, because with the semi dress casual boot I like the flat wax laces. For a work boot I like leather, but not for casual.

I guess on here it will depend in who's opinion you value. 😁👍 Either way, you win with a nice boot!
post #4866 of 5040
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Originally Posted by dsthompson View Post

Thanks for the kind words about my boots above, guys. I've got a question for the group on laces, if anyone has a second. Trying to decide between leather and waxed cotton laces. Take a look at the picture, and let me know your thoughts...thanks!



Leather for sure. Is the toe of your boots unstructured or single celastic? They look great.
post #4867 of 5040
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Leather for sure. Is the toe of your boots unstructured or single celastic? They look great.

Thanks man, and everyone above---they are single celastic. Debated between single and unstructured, but I am happy with the single. 

post #4868 of 5040
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Originally Posted by dsthompson View Post
 

Thanks for the kind words about my boots above, guys. I've got a question for the group on laces, if anyone has a second. Trying to decide between leather and waxed cotton laces. Take a look at the picture, and let me know your thoughts...thanks!

 

Leather will stretch and give while wearing and when trimmed to the proper length look nice, the larger 3/16 are nice also. This company (snors) from DE sells the other laces that could contrast with the color or comply with it. Floppy laces always look casual sloppy.

 

Bakers/whites/nicks use F instead of EEE to keep the length of the sizing stamp down  11 1/2 F instead of 11 1/2 EEE

post #4869 of 5040
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Originally Posted by dsthompson View Post
 

Also wanted to say, for anybody on the fence, I strongly urge you to the pull the trigger on a pair of White's. I've worn Wolverine 1K, OSB Trench, and several pairs of Redwings in my life, and I think White's is clearly head and shoulders above those brands. The boots themselves seem SO MUCH sturdier, and the fit is incredible.

 

FIT NOTE: I had always worn 11 or 11.5 D, but was told by Kyle at Baker's that I actually needed an F width (which is like 3 sizes wider than a D). I was skeptical just because I'd never been told that before (in 30 plus years!), but as soon as I slipped these on I realized I'd spent decades wearing shoes that were too tight, without even realizing it.

 

Anyway, construction, details, leather, customer service (from Baker's) are all outstanding...

 

Interesting... I'm considering a pair of black boots for this fall / winter and I'd narrowed it down to another pair of White's (I have a pair of brown CXL semi-dress) or the OSB Trench boots in black with dainite. 

 

You'd go White's over OSB? I liked the shape of the OSB but I'd be interested in your take. 

post #4870 of 5040
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Originally Posted by dsthompson View Post

Also wanted to say, for anybody on the fence, I strongly urge you to the pull the trigger on a pair of White's. I've worn Wolverine 1K, OSB Trench, and several pairs of Redwings in my life, and I think White's is clearly head and shoulders above those brands. The boots themselves seem SO MUCH sturdier, and the fit is incredible.

FIT NOTE: I had always worn 11 or 11.5 D, but was told by Kyle at Baker's that I actually needed an F width (which is like 3 sizes wider than a D). I was skeptical just because I'd never been told that before (in 30 plus years!), but as soon as I slipped these on I realized I'd spent decades wearing shoes that were too tight, without even realizing it.

Anyway, construction, details, leather, customer service (from Baker's) are all outstanding...

I had the same revelation with Kyle. As I had mentioned when I joined this thread, I have always worn and 11.5d in dress shoes and work boots and 12 in sneakers. Alden measured me on the Brannok at an 11C and it was horribly uncomfortable so we went with an 11.5c on the Barrie last. Turns out, Kyle measured me as 10.5E and afte try on I settled on the 11E in the lasts that fit my foot. I had always been trading length for width and all of my shoes were too long or too tight.

The lesson to anyone reading this who hasn't done so, do the fit sheet and talk to Kyle at Bakers. Don't try to save a few bucks buying the size you think is right on eBay, cramming your feet into them or using heel and tongue pads to make up the difference on an ill fit.find out what your measurement actually are, and figure out which last shape works for your feet. I could have saved years of discomfort and thousands of dollars had I known this decades ago.

James
post #4871 of 5040
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Originally Posted by dsthompson View Post
 

Thanks for the kind words about my boots above, guys. I've got a question for the group on laces, if anyone has a second. Trying to decide between leather and waxed cotton laces. Take a look at the picture, and let me know your thoughts...thanks!

 

LEATHER...all the way :)

post #4872 of 5040
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Originally Posted by grendel View Post
 

 

Interesting... I'm considering a pair of black boots for this fall / winter and I'd narrowed it down to another pair of White's (I have a pair of brown CXL semi-dress) or the OSB Trench boots in black with dainite. 

 

You'd go White's over OSB? I liked the shape of the OSB but I'd be interested in your take. 

I'd buy RedWing Heritage or Wolverine 1000 mile boots before OSB...there has been some quality control issues...but even if that wasn't the case. OSB's are as much as a pair of White's and with wait times being down...White's all day long bro.

post #4873 of 5040

"Don't try to save a few bucks buying the size you think is right on eBay, cramming your feet into them"

 

Speak for yourself

 

I do not save a few $s I save massive amounts of $$$. Routinely 50% sometimes 80-90% of the retail price. Those same savings have paid for the equipment many times over. I do it all the time for myself and friends.

 

One just needs the proper equipment and the talent or knowledge to use it (just like the manufacturers) to make the items wider, longer, or both. It is a common practice and done every day by shoe shops, makers, and savvy owners around the world.

post #4874 of 5040

Interesting... I'm considering a pair of black boots for this fall / winter and I'd narrowed it down to another pair of White's (I have a pair of brown CXL semi-dress) or the OSB Trench boots in black with dainite. 

 

You'd go White's over OSB? I liked the shape of the OSB but I'd be interested in your take.

 

Do not over look the Wolverine Krause.  They are very similar and you can now get them heavily discounted.

post #4875 of 5040

So, I currently own both OSB Trenches in natural CXL and Whites SJs in black CXL.  I briefly owned a pair of Krause boots as well, but returned them.  Here's my take:

 

There certainly was some evidence on the now defunct OSB board of quality control issues, though I am not sure any worse than what we see with White's, and certainly not worse than Alden.  There are some who think that OSB gets a lesser quality CXL than Whites or Viberg, but I don't know if that's the case.  If you look at the Viberg board right now there is a pair of nearly brand new lightly worn black CXLs with serious undyed leather showing through.  As many guys have said, this seems to be what you get with CXL, and if you are happy with it that's fine.  Most of the OSB trenches I have seen are natural, and that leather certainly gets scuffed up and darkened quickly, but that's par for the course.  Not sure how the black OSBs have held up, but there are probably pics around.  I think they look great new though, I have to say.  The main quality question with regard to OSB and CXL is whether they get a looser grain, less durable version, but I think perhaps the creasing we have seen is due to the boots being unlined in the shaft.  And there is lots of creasing in other brands and other leathers -- eg, the Whites HH posted here a few months back.

 

Looks wise, I think the OSBs look great.  A really nice shape.  I recently sent a pair back to be resoled with Dainite, and they should be arriving soon.  I can post pics when they do.  It is definitely a lighter boot than any White's will be, even the SD, and at first I balked at that, but I have grown to like it.

 

As far as the Krause boots, like I said I only owned them for a week or so before deciding not to keep them.  I like the looks, and the "Dublin" leather was cool (though not sure how it would wear). But it felt like a very light boot indeed, more like a shoe really, and that combined with the flat leather sole didn't do it for me.  I like a heavier workboot feel.  If you want a lighter boot that has traditional lines but looks a little more stylish, it's a good bet, especially on sale (the full price is a little outrageous).


Edited by linafelt - 9/1/14 at 4:02pm
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