This is where ordering from Bakers is key. They guarantee fit and Kyle is awesome so they WILL take care of you if there is problem, trust me.
"I am trying on for fit now fit snugly across the vamp and middle of the foot, but not too tight, and the toe box is perfect when walking"
There is an attachment made for the Ultra 80 machines that attaches to the top of the front last for that exact problem and using it cures the "snugness".
Take them to Phillip.
Hear hear! One good pair is worth ten bad ones. Isn't it the same with all things - shoes, jeans, shirts - one or two get 80% of the wear, and the others just lie there...or am I the odd one out?
I have a question about the retro oxfords (not related to your questions). I'm trying to order a pair SD that will have a similar look, only in a boot of course. I want something a little more formal to wear with a suit but I can't justify paying the extra $$ just to have it in shoe form. With that in mind, I was thinking if I lowered and blocked the heel, selected a close trim, and added a medallion toe cap, I would have something close to the look of the retro oxford or even closer to an Alden Edmonds type boot. Does that sound reasonable to anyone or am I way off? I wear a custom size combo in White's (10 E left, 9 EE right) and I know they fit me so I would prefer to stick with them.
Check out post 1453 on page 97 before ordering - make sure you want the lowered block heel look. I thought about it several times, but somehow the balance is lost. The lowered slant heel though keeps the Whites-look. Very much a personal taste, but I imagine the regret factor is high.
Thanks for the feedback. You might be right about the color. I was hoping to get the burgundy chromexcel but perhaps they won't "shine up" very well.
I'm still undecided about the heel too, I'll check out the referenced post. I have a slant heel on my bounty hunters and they just seem so bootish. Granted a lowered heel on a SD would be quite a bit lower.