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Originally Posted by Neognosis View Post
 

I think people buy these boots and intentionally go around kicking things and walking roughly through stones and whatnot to get a "patina'd" look.

 

I think your probably right, although my boots got the "patina'd" look naturally through heavy wear. 

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You ought try brushing that chromexcel.

 

As much as I don't like chromexcel because it scratches if you look at it funny, it does usually buff out pretty easily with just a horsehair brush.

 

I've worn mine 3-5 times a week since October, to work and on trips around the globe for work, and they look nothing like that. Unless, of course, you like the "beat up" look that all the hipsters seem to be going for lately, and nothing wrong with that, they are your boots, after all!

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Originally Posted by seann View Post
 

Brown Chromexcel

That would explain the fast evolution… Nice work.

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^^ I have heard people talk about buffing out the marks on CXL with a brush, but honestly it has never worked that well for me. I have two pairs of boots in CXL, and while there is much to like about the leather, seann's boots shows just how quickly the it wears if you put it through any paces.  If you're going to use boots for real work, I'd look elsewhere than CXL.

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Lina,

Leather laces for your boots, definitely. Sorry, was away for a few days. I come back and its almost back to normal around here...I wonder why? :satisfied:

 

Maybe it will stay that way.

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Originally Posted by linafelt View Post
 

^^ I have heard people talk about buffing out the marks on CXL with a brush, but honestly it has never worked that well for me. I have two pairs of boots in CXL, and while there is much to like about the leather, seann's boots shows just how quickly the it wears if you put it through any paces.  If you're going to use boots for real work, I'd look elsewhere than CXL.

Completely agreed on having less than great luck with trying to buff/brush scratches out of CXL.  A little bit of nose grease often does the trick for a while, but I think one has to embrace the scratches and gouges when going with CXL.  While I certainly think a leather like Distressed Smooth is much more up to the task of being a "true workboot," I'll be wearing my #8 CXL BHs quite hard, and have no concerns about the scratches that they'll accrue.  Given CXL seems like it almost has a cheat code for patina, I think the scratches are just part of that territory.

 

On a different note, does anyone know what tannery makes the Distressed Smooth?  It might be my favorite leather out there.

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Originally Posted by cathpah View Post
 

 A little bit of nose grease often does the trick for a while, but I think one has to embrace the scratches and gouges when going with CXL.

By nose grease do you mean LP?

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Originally Posted by 4characters View Post
 

By nose grease do you mean LP?

Yep...that just what us gangsters call it on the s-s-s-s-streets!

 

I speak jive.

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:p

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I use my CWB's for work and it doesn't take long for them to get beat up looking.  Those in the pic look about right for someone who actually wears them for work especially if they are in construction or something where they are crawling around alot and walking on uneven surfaces.  Mine get gouges and scuff in them but luckily brushing them and oiling them hides most of it.  I've been working on a dock lately and they are picking up a lot of "character".  Mine are oil finish brown and it gets scarred up pretty good.

 

That's what work boots are for.  Better to have the nicks and gouges on the boot than on your feet.

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Hi guys, I've been a long time lurker on this thread. I used it a lot doing research for my custom build. Thanks to you guys I was able to just about smell the horse hide before I ever saw the real thing.

 

Picked up my boots today from the post office, only 1 month after ordering! Specs: 

 

461 Last

Black Horse Hide

Plain cap toe

Antique eyes and hooks

Standard (curved) heel

Standard heel height

Single midsole

Close trim

Vibram 269 sole

 

I love the boots, but I also have a couple of minor issues. The shelf on the heel was much much closer on the left boot as opposed to the right boot. Also, I noticed that the left boot is slightly shorter than the right, which I think is due to the heel actually being shorter on that boot. It's not much, I wouldn't have probably noticed it except I was looking so close at the heel shelf. Just less than 1/8" I think, but it's hard to measure accurately.

 

 

I live in Canada and return shipping would be nasty, so I was able to take the boots to get the heel shelf corrected at a local shoe repair place (awesome guy, has done work for me before and really knows shoes). Spent 15 minutes talking to him about the great quality of these boots! They fit perfectly, and are super comfortable right out of the box.

 

Just wondering if anyone else has had a problem with heel height like this, and if that would be enough to throw off the comfort level of the boots.

 

 

Sorry for the crappy cell phone pictures, I will post nicer ones when I get them back from the shop.


Edited by whirlybones - 7/31/14 at 4:28am
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Seems this heel shelf issue is a consistent problem reported on this forum with White's boots.

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Spent 15 minutes talking to him about the great quality of these boots!

 

How is that consistent with such a glaringly obvious QC oversight such as the heel shelf issue?

 

I am starting to think a lot of this superior quality talk is just hype. How you gonna pay 4 bills for a pair of boots that look like that and feel ok about it? that's some bullshit right there, IMO.

 

I'm just about ready to pull the trigger and get a pair, but I'm thinking I might be happier with redwings in the hand that I can examine, rather than paying 100 dollars more for boots that have something like those heels, and that's AFTER waiting  4 weeks?

 

I'm not sure about this anymore.....

post #4513 of 5787
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Originally Posted by Neognosis View Post
 

Seems this heel shelf issue is a consistent problem reported on this forum with White's boots.

 

How is that consistent with such a glaringly obvious QC oversight such as the heel shelf issue?

 

I am starting to think a lot of this superior quality talk is just hype. How you gonna pay 4 bills for a pair of boots that look like that and feel ok about it? that's some bullshit right there, IMO.

 

I'm just about ready to pull the trigger and get a pair, but I'm thinking I might be happier with redwings in the hand that I can examine, rather than paying 100 dollars more for boots that have something like those heels, and that's AFTER waiting  4 weeks?

 

I'm not sure about this anymore.....

The heel shelf issue is one purely related to how much they sanded them down.  I'm not making any excuses for that, but it's purely cosmetic and easily remedied.  If you order through Baker's, ask Kyle to do a once-over on them, and you'll be good to go.

 

Moreover, quality is determined by a lot of factors, the width of the heel shelf being pretty darn low on that list.  Build quality includes stitching, construction type, leather quality, clicking/selecting of the leather, design, etc etc etc.

 

I really like the RWs that I own, but I'm slowly selling them off and replacing them with White's or Nick's because of the appreciable difference in quality and comfort. YMMV.

post #4514 of 5787
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 I am starting to think a lot of this superior quality talk is just hype. How you gonna pay 4 bills for a pair of boots that look like that and feel ok about it? that's some bullshit right there, IMO.
 
I'm just about ready to pull the trigger and get a pair, but I'm thinking I might be happier with redwings in the hand that I can examine, rather than paying 100 dollars more for boots that have something like those heels, and that's AFTER waiting  4 weeks?

I think it boils down to what you are paying for. Part of it is the custom thing. Pick your leather, hardware, heel, heel height, sole, even the last. Also, the fit as I said was perfect. Best fitting footwear I've ever owned, hands down, thanks to the great customer service guys at Baker's helping me get it just right. They even added some leather in the tongue to account for my wide instep and make the boots easier to get on.

 

Cathpah had it right. The heel shelf is a cosmetic issue, not functionality. The point of something mass produced, like Redwing, is consistency. Make the same boot, over and over and over. It's like the difference between a Big Mac and a burger at your local pub. The Big Mac will always, look the same, taste the same. On a busy night at the pub, or if the new guy is working the grill, your burger might be on the well side, or maybe they forgot the pickle. But I'd still pay more for it than a Big Mac. And be more satisfied with my purchase.

 

I showed the repair guy the boots, he saw my complaint, and, another difference between these boots and most mass produced ones- he said he could fix it, no problem. Redwings might last you 5 or 10 years with proper care, depending on how you use them. White's should last 25. The repair guy wasn't talking about the looks, he was talking from a repair guy soul- how solid and heavy they were, and how they were such beautiful leather, great construction, etc.

 

Not to say I wasn't disappointed that I couldn't just put them on and wear them. Quality control could definitely be better. I wish I lived in Oregon, so I could just take them over to the shop and have them fixed up. 

 

If durability isn't really an issue, and cost/looks and the ability to have them instantly are weighing heavier in your decision, go with RW. They're nice boots.

post #4515 of 5787
^, ^^, & ^^^ like cathpath said__ just a simple sand down @your local cobbler. i suggest doing it right away before putting much wear on the boots, so that heel color/shade would be even on both heels ... as well as with the rest of the sole units.

btw, just wanna remind folks that these are hand-made "work boots". peeps get bogged down by esthetics. i don't know if you can call [100+ yrs] of boot-making tradition "A HYPE".

bottomline, it's a personal [style] decision. you either get it or you don't ... into it or not.

true, once in awhile something slip through quality control. but, most bootmen i come across here & the other forums, who had years of wearing experience & ownership, vouch for their functionality & continually patronize the products.




when i got SD Horsehide x Bison MTO w/lowered block heels, the heel shelves were sticking too far out, IMO. so, i had the back heels sanded down by just a tad.

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