Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

I remember asking Kyle about this a few years back, and there's no real reason why they couldn't offer lace to toe as an option on the SD last; they just don't, tho.

Thank god it's Friday!
Thanks everyone for the insight on the smokejumpers.

Huge shout out to Kyle at Bakers for all the help!

White's Smoke Jumper Standard Last

• Toe Vamp Leather: Brown Smooth
• Toe Cap Leather: None
• Celastic Toe Box: Single
• Steel Toe: No Thanks
• Heel Counter Leather: Brown Smooth
• Height: 12"
• Upper (Shaft) Leather : Red Dog Smooth
• Leather Liner: No Thanks
• Sole Trim: Standard Trim
• Top: Rolled
• Back Stay Leather: Red Dog Smooth
• Pull Loop: Yes
• Eyelet Color: Brass
• Eyelet Configuration : Hook and Eyelet
• Top Garment: Hook
• Lace Design: Lace to Toe
• Lace: Leather
• False Tongue: Red Dog Smooth
• Sole: Vib 430
• Half Slip: No
• Heel Shape: Curve
• Heel Height: Standard
• Last: Standard
• Midsole: Double
• Midsole/Edge Color: Natural
• Size - Length: 8.5
• Size - Width: D

Does anyone have any tips on tucking the tounge properly when lacing? The leather is stiff new and this is my first boot this tall that uses laces.

Thanks,
Brian

I just tried on some smoke jumpers today in size 10D and they fit perfectly with athletic socks. My SDs are size 10.5D. The Semi-dress is smaller so they should fit in 10.5D right? Maybe with an added in-sole?
Does that sound reasonable? Size 10.5D in SD and Size 10D in SJ?

Thanks Andy B.
Thanks b-ewing

Brian-----Those are some sweet smoke jumpers! With the way you beat your boots those burley SJs will be perfect for you. Like the Brown smooth/ red dog combo.

You gotta put the false tongue in a boot that burley.

4C, I wish I could give you a good answer. I own SJs but not SDs. I'm trying to figure out the opposite from you... If I remember Kyle's advice correctly, it was that the two lasts should be close size-wise, maybe the SD a bit more narrow?



the shivman said:

You gotta put the false tongue in a boot that burley.

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+1!



4characters said:

I just tried on some smoke jumpers today in size 10D and they fit perfectly with athletic socks. My SDs are size 10.5D. The Semi-dress is smaller so they should fit in 10.5D right? Maybe with an added in-sole?
Does that sound reasonable? Size 10.5D in SD and Size 10D in SJ?

[COLOR=181818]Thanks Andy B.
Thanks b-ewing

Brian-----Those are some sweet smoke jumpers! With the way you beat your boots those burley SJs will be perfect for you. Like the Brown smooth/ red dog combo.[/COLOR]

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Thanks! I'm super happy with how they turned out.

the shivman said:

You gotta put the false tongue in a boot that burley.

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False tounges are in, photos coming soon.

b-ewing said:

4C, I wish I could give you a good answer. I own SJs but not SDs. I'm trying to figure out the opposite from you... If I remember Kyle's advice correctly, it was that the two lasts should be close size-wise, maybe the SD a bit more narrow?

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Thanks
Well, I suppose at this point there's not much I can do... I will find out in 2-3 weeks anyway; In the meantime I’ll try not to think about it….



4characters said:

I just tried on some smoke jumpers today in size 10D and they fit perfectly with athletic socks. My SDs are size 10.5D. The Semi-dress is smaller so they should fit in 10.5D right? Maybe with an added in-sole?
Does that sound reasonable? Size 10.5D in SD and Size 10D in SJ?

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This is just my experience with the pairs I own. The BHs are 9.5D (on the SD last) and the SJs are 9.5E but on the 461 Classic last. My previous posts explain why that is. The 461C last is supposed to be like the standard SJ last only with a more upturned toe. Going by my boots in front of me, I would say the SJ last is roomier. What all that means is that yes, I think your 10.5D SDs should fit fine. I don't know how much insoles adjust the fit, other than the heel area. I can say with 100% certainty that you can make much more adjustments by varying your sock thickness. Also, something to keep in mind is that wool socks (at least 75% wool) are excellent at wicking away moisture, so don't assume wool=hot sweaty feet. I said I don't wear my SJs in the summer. That isn't because they make my feet sweat, it's because they look kind of goofy with board shorts and Hawaiian shirts. Andy B.



Brian Itzaina said:

Does anyone have any tips on tucking the tounge properly when lacing? The leather is stiff new and this is my first boot this tall that uses laces. Thanks, Brian

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Lord are those beautiful!!!! The Brown Smooth on those looks much lighter than on mine. It's very difficult to figure out how all these leather colors are going to end up except for black. White's gives some instructions on folding the tongue. You kind of have to pull it to one side, then fold it over. The only problem I have is making sure it lays right over the crease over your ankle. Once it gets broken in, the fold comes sort of natural to it. Andy B.



4characters said:

Thanks
Well, I suppose at this point there's not much I can do... I will find out in 2-3 weeks anyway; In the meantime I’ll try not to think about it….

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Don't let me scare you off, man- There's plenty of other experience on here... When in doubt go w/Kyle



Brian Itzaina said:

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F^cking perfect!! One of the best, non-fussy looking two tone boot I've seen

Those are some serious ******* boots.
I can hang but not sure I could pull them off.

Those are some serious s**tkickers! Congrats. Now go do what these boots were meant for and crush some cans: