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Originally Posted by dsthompson View Post

Does anyone know how the classic work boot differs from the bounty hunter? In looking at pictures, I'm struggling to pick up on the differences. Any thoughts on which model (semi dress, classic work boot, or bounty hunter 6") would best compliment distressed smooth leather with a block heel and vibram 430 sole, lowered by a 1/4 inch, worn by a guy that doesn't do much actual work, apart from the occasional light hike with his boys and work around the yard?

Feel like all the choices that come with fully customizable boots are driving me crazy!


I have a pair of CWB's and from what White's say's on their website it's the same boot with a roomier last than the Farmer Rancher and a shorter height.  From what I have read the Bounty Hunter is an SJ with a different sole than the lugged sole.  It might have the SD last as well but I'm not sure.

 

I could be mistaken so you'd better wait for replies from the experts.

post #4337 of 5808
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Originally Posted by b-ewing View Post

Thx for the comments bros! These are packers on the motor patrol last, 7" height, 269 outsoles, natural midsoles (single) and heel (standard), brass eyelets and hooks, and black tie leather. Basically, a poor man's flightmaster with natural stained trim. If you're looking for a boot with the refinement of the 2030 last but still retaining the ruggedness of an American workbook this is the one for you

Here's a top profile


And heel (not for the wussy lowered block heel type tongue.gifwink.gif )


Those are beautiful, Ewing.  Damn, it makes me want a pair of Wesco's.

post #4338 of 5808
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Originally Posted by dsthompson View Post

Does anyone know how the classic work boot differs from the bounty hunter? In looking at pictures, I'm struggling to pick up on the differences. Any thoughts on which model (semi dress, classic work boot, or bounty hunter 6") would best compliment distressed smooth leather with a block heel and vibram 430 sole, lowered by a 1/4 inch, worn by a guy that doesn't do much actual work, apart from the occasional light hike with his boys and work around the yard?

Feel like all the choices that come with fully customizable boots are driving me crazy!

Guys definitely think too much about all of this. biggrin.gif
If you don't want an exposed heel counter, you want the SD, if you want the exposed heel counter, you want any of the other White's boots.
The BH is the SJ on the SD last.
For a given size, the look and top profile of the boot is more affected by close trim versus standard trim. I doubt many people could tell one last from another if they were the same boot, in the same size, with the same sole trim. I have Three pairs of White's in three different lasts and the only difference I can tell in any of them is the Packers have the Thoroughbred pointed toe, otherwise they all look like "workboots".

My only concern would be if I had a foot that required a wider toe in relation to the heel, in which case I would contact Kyle at Baker's and tell him and he'll tell you which last would be best.

I have seen distressed smooth leather in every style and they all look good, so I can't see where that would be a major influence in your decision.

My only personal choice would be that the block heel looks better with the SD, but that is personal preference. I like anything that looks more like a "workboot" to have the standard White's heel.
post #4339 of 5808

Everything Andy said is right on! The thing with the CWB last or the C461 last to be exact is according to Kyle, it is the most roomy toe box of all the lasts Whites has, and that the toe is slightly more upturned, which is something that is appealing to me.

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Originally Posted by b-ewing View Post

Haha, yeah these are wesco. And yeah, I'm sure I've had a post flagged for my heel height taunting biggrin.gif (my apologies if I've offended any of you- I'm such a hypocrite). To be fair and fully disclosed, I totally and completely think there is room for both. I do, however, love to stoke the fire on that topic tongue.gif

Ha.  If people are actually flagging a post about your obviously jocular tone about the shape of a boot heel, I do believe they need to get a hobby.

 

Thanks for the info on the Wescos.  Without going too far into it (or maybe you should), which brand of PNW/Canadian boot do you prefer overall?  I just got my first pair of Nick's (which are beautiful), but I haven't owned them long enough to really be able to judge anything about them, and I've never owned a pair of Wescos.

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Thanks, everyone----all of this information is immensely helpful. I've sent my tracings and measurements in to Kyle, so once he receives them I'll check in to see which last best fits my foot shape. I do have a pretty wide foot (I've tried on the SD in a local shop, and the toe box was pretty snug in the correct length), so the CWB might actually be a good fit for me.

 

It's great to have this forum to reach out to, as my wife has gotten pretty tired of my constant questions about boot options; that being said, I'm sure the same could be said of a lot of y'all checking this thread to see actual photos of beautiful boots. I can promise, though, that photos will be forthcoming once I've gotten these things built and in my hands.

 

Also, regarding the recent discussion above, the fact that there even exists a forum where a 1/4" difference in heel height on a boot can inspire such impassioned discourse is a clear indicator that I have found my people...

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I checked that out a while ago: I posted this in the "Highland and PW Minor-made footwear thread (no storm pictures)" thread. 

 

Originally Posted by westie187 View Post

Just an FYI. On case anyone was still wondering:

I emailed George over at OSB regarding the official affiliate thread, and here is his reply:

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"A big part of the reason why we became officiates was so that we could both support the forum, but most importantly, be able to directly answer questions and speak directly with folks who are interested in/fans of Oak Street Bootmakers. Over the past couple of years however, you surely noticed that we had only posted a handful of times. As a small shop, we quite simply don’t have the bandwidth/personnel to keep up with the thread. When we stopped being an affiliate last month, SF kept the thread active for around 30 days, but per their policy, they deleted it."

"You’ll notice that even before our ‘official affiliate thread’ there was an Oak Street thread - that thread is still up and will continue to be a place to post about Oak Street Bootmakers. Just as other footwear brands have threads (Alden, Red Wing, Rancourt, etc) - none are affiliates, but all have a thread on SF."

 

Right, thanks very much.  I have to think that it also has something to do with how badly the conversation deteriorated there.  It got to be painful to wade through.  But now I find myself looking to re-sole my Trench boots, and was looking for feedback but it's a no-go.

I just re-soled a pair or William Lennon boots through Brian Truong, a cobbler who does amazing stuff! 

 

Check him out on IG at "brianthebootmaker". Or contact him at roleclub@yahoo.com.

post #4343 of 5808
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Originally Posted by dsthompson View Post
 

Thanks, everyone----all of this information is immensely helpful. I've sent my tracings and measurements in to Kyle, so once he receives them I'll check in to see which last best fits my foot shape. I do have a pretty wide foot (I've tried on the SD in a local shop, and the toe box was pretty snug in the correct length), so the CWB might actually be a good fit for me.

 

It's great to have this forum to reach out to, as my wife has gotten pretty tired of my constant questions about boot options; that being said, I'm sure the same could be said of a lot of y'all checking this thread to see actual photos of beautiful boots. I can promise, though, that photos will be forthcoming once I've gotten these things built and in my hands.

 

Also, regarding the recent discussion above, the fact that there even exists a forum where a 1/4" difference in heel height on a boot can inspire such impassioned discourse is a clear indicator that I have found my people...

You're home now.

post #4344 of 5808
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Originally Posted by cathpah View Post

Thanks for the info on the Wescos.  Without going too far into it (or maybe you should), which brand of PNW/Canadian boot do you prefer overall?  I just got my first pair of Nick's (which are beautiful), but I haven't owned them long enough to really be able to judge anything about them, and I've never owned a pair of Wescos.

I can't fully answer that because I have only briefly owned some Nicks (a second hand pair in cognac bull hide that didn't fit quite right so they had to go) and have never touched a pair of Vibergs.

But between wesco and whites, I'd say the wescos seem the better crafted boot (better qc standards, full stitch down, smaller factory, etc). But I find whites arch ease to be more comfortable. My next pair without question will be some Nicks (yours are just too damn badass!!)

Everyone's got their opinion on this, but most people I talk to seem to rank the Pac NW boots as follows: Viberg, WESCO, Nick's, and then White's.
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You're home now.

Lol! Love it
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Originally Posted by b-ewing View Post

Haha, a more attentive husband for one biggrin.gif

Apart from my disinterest in participating in a lot of the ridiculousness here of late, there's the fact that my boot collection has pretty much hit critical mass (upon delivery of some wesco packers). I've told myself I need to slow my roll; these forums are like a recovering alcoholic walking into a bar!

Btw here's the last straw pair

I've always loved the Wesco Packers, especially the MP Toe. This is almost exactly the same way that I'd build a pair! I just can't get past all the nickel-and-dime charges for every little customization. I'm sure I've griped about this here before, probably to b-ewing. Everything from changing their standard brown stitching to picking leather laces instead of nylon...it really adds up. Last I checked, they didn't have an option on the site for 7" height or any different last options for the Packer boot. I don't really want to know how much more they charge for that. Nonetheless, those are gorgeous!

post #4347 of 5808
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Originally Posted by climbinglife View Post
 

Everything Andy said is right on! The thing with the CWB last or the C461 last to be exact is according to Kyle, it is the most roomy toe box of all the lasts Whites has, and that the toe is slightly more upturned, which is something that is appealing to me.


Whites also has access to the Munson (US ARMY) or minimalist lasts for real large foot boxes

 

see explanation and desc of them here:http://www.russellmoccasin.com/minimalist-footwear/

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Originally Posted by NNNN View Post

I've always loved the Wesco Packers, especially the MP Toe. This is almost exactly the same way that I'd build a pair! I just can't get past all the nickel-and-dime charges for every little customization. I'm sure I've griped about this here before, probably to b-ewing. Everything from changing their standard brown stitching to picking leather laces instead of nylon...it really adds up. Last I checked, they didn't have an option on the site for 7" height or any different last options for the Packer boot. I don't really want to know how much more they charge for that. Nonetheless, those are gorgeous!

I agree with you 100% on their left-and-right upcharges. Thankfully, the only upcharge I was hit with was $40 for the black tie leather. Ended up costing $450 (I think). 7" is the secret height (they'll do it no problem), which is strangely equivalent to 6" high Whites.

And sorry for derailing this thread with so much non-Whites action. A wesco thread or a general boot thread would be a more appropriate place no doubt.
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Originally Posted by b-ewing View Post


I agree with you 100% on their left-and-right upcharges. Thankfully, the only upcharge I was hit with was $40 for the black tie leather. Ended up costing $450 (I think). 7" is the secret height (they'll do it no problem), which is strangely equivalent to 6" high Whites.

And sorry for derailing this thread with so much non-Whites action. A wesco thread or a general boot thread would be a more appropriate place no doubt.

Might I recommend that you start one?  You've done your research, both in reading and in purchasing, and would therefore be a very qualified party to do so.  It could even be a PacNW boot thread, as that would then stay within the same style of boot, yet would keep the Red Wing and Wolverine stuff out of it (no offense to those brands, but they both have big threads as it is, and they're on a different level than Wesco/White's/Viberg/Nick's/etc).  

 

If you'd prefer not to start that, just say the word and I'll do so.

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Ok, as I seem to have run out of important questions, I've one last detail for you guys: on the build-a-boot website, the choices for laces are nylon and leather. I really like flat waxed cotton laces (which I've seen on pairs of stock White's boots for sale on websites (http://www.snakeoilprovisions.com/footwear/whites-boots-semi-dress-english-tan)). Does anybody know if these can be chosen, or if there is a third party website that stocks them in the appropriate length (for a semi-dress build)?

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