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post #4156 of 4531

Well, after reading all this about over conditioning the leather I hope I didn't overdo my SJ's and CWB's when I got them 4 or 5 months ago.   Each has been LP'd 2 or 3X in that period and oiled once or twice.  I quit doing it when I was scolded about it a few months ago but the reason I did it was because when I got them they were both being worn in very wet, snowy, freezing conditions daily to the point that they got saturated more than a few times and they get worn for 14-16 hours and sometimes far longer every day.  There have been times when they are worn for 40 hrs straight.  My thought was that with that kind of wear they might need to be conditioned more often but I quit doing it when everyone came unglued a few months ago when I admitted LPing them twice right after they were new a few weeks apart.  Some one really came unglued when I said I LP'd the inside leather lining which I've done twice because Obenhauf's actually recommends that on their site.  I doubt I'll be doing that again.

 

Now they just get washed with plain water every week or so and if the water doesn't bead up at all I oil them.  The CWB's will get LP'd once the first snow sets in and then I'll do what I am doing now.  Waiting until water doesn't bead up when they get wet.  I wear the CWB's all the time now that it is summer and I don't get to brush them every day so I just wash them every week.  I guess I should start carrying the brush with me when I leave town because they do get covered in dust and dirt regularly.  Sometimes I do, however, wipe them down with a wet rag at the end of the day if they are really covered with dust and dirt.

 

I have noticed that LP does tend to attract dirt if I don't brush them real well after it has soaked in.  For that matter, the same with the oil.  I suppose that maybe Saddlesoap would work just fine except for boots that are used in extreme conditions in the winter as mine are.  For the summer months maybe I'll try Saddlesoap.  The CEO of White's says we can use that.

post #4157 of 4531
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Originally Posted by LouieBailie View Post


12 Moonlander





Louie,

I think you're a crazy bastard, that's why I laugh at most of you posts. You have some cool footwear.
But I have to say, YOU HAVE A FREAKIN' MOONLANDER. YOU'RE THE BOSS!!! All I have is the Moonlander's baby brother, the Pugsley.

Okay, back to White's Boots....
post #4158 of 4531
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Originally Posted by trvlr472 View Post

Well, after reading all this about over conditioning the leather I hope I didn't overdo my SJ's and CWB's when I got them 4 or 5 months ago.   Each has been LP'd 2 or 3X in that period and oiled once or twice.  I quit doing it when I was scolded about it a few months ago but the reason I did it was because when I got them they were both being worn in very wet, snowy, freezing conditions daily to the point that they got saturated more than a few times and they get worn for 14-16 hours and sometimes far longer every day.  There have been times when they are worn for 40 hrs straight.  My thought was that with that kind of wear they might need to be conditioned more often but I quit doing it when everyone came unglued a few months ago when I admitted LPing them twice right after they were new a few weeks apart.  Some one really came unglued when I said I LP'd the inside leather lining which I've done twice because Obenhauf's actually recommends that on their site.  I doubt I'll be doing that again.

Now they just get washed with plain water every week or so and if the water doesn't bead up at all I oil them.  The CWB's will get LP'd once the first snow sets in and then I'll do what I am doing now.  Waiting until water doesn't bead up when they get wet.  I wear the CWB's all the time now that it is summer and I don't get to brush them every day so I just wash them every week.  I guess I should start carrying the brush with me when I leave town because they do get covered in dust and dirt regularly.  Sometimes I do, however, wipe them down with a wet rag at the end of the day if they are really covered with dust and dirt.

I have noticed that LP does tend to attract dirt if I don't brush them real well after it has soaked in.  For that matter, the same with the oil.  I suppose that maybe Saddlesoap would work just fine except for boots that are used in extreme conditions in the winter as mine are.  For the summer months maybe I'll try Saddlesoap.  The CEO of White's says we can use that.

You sound like me. I definitely over-conditioned when I first bought my White's. Like you, now I hit them with LP once per year, or if they seem "dry". If I was walking through 6" of water all day or hiking through burning embers and ash or the jungles of VN, I would probably condition them much more frequently.

Oh, I have the leather lining in my BHs, and I use a rag with a light coating of LP to wipe it down once every year or two.

I also try to brush off my footwear at the end of each day to get the fine grit off of it and out of any creases because I do believe it definitely collects in them and starts the cracks. I have two pairs of White's and a pair of RW IRs that are over 4 years old with a lot of wear, and zero cracking.
post #4159 of 4531
Agreed about the cracking. Keep the sides well conditioned - that is whatever method you use - but not dry, and keep that dirt and grime brushed away. That's what starts the leather cracking as it acts like sandpaper once it gets into any crack. Brush, brush, brush...
post #4160 of 4531

Yeah, I never gave leather care a second thought until I bought the White's and joined this forum along with reading everything about leather care I could find other places.  I never even considered fine dust particles getting into those creases and abrading the leather.  I guess I should start brushing mine every day.

 

I did have a pair of Filson Chukka's I wore every winter for 7 years and they held up great. I used them in the snow and walked through deep water in them all the time.  Filson recommended oiling them often and they even said the more often the better.  I oiled those a few times a year.   Never brushed them and never cleaned them before I oiled or LP's them. They got LP's a few times once I discovered  Obenhauf's.  I was shortly after I decided to give them a real good LP job with oil right after that when they just cracked open and started to fall apart.  They also got soaked and frozen a few times right about the same time.  That's when I bought the White's to replace them.

post #4161 of 4531
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I think you're a crazy bastard, that's why I laugh at most of you posts 

I think Louie is probably OK.  I remember joining a forum years ago and pissed off just about everybody right off the bat because they didn't know me and didn't know how to take my posts or they read something into my posts I didn't intend.  I'm still on that forum 3 or 4 years later and we get along great.

 

Obviously, Louie is into old classic stuff and quality leather goods.  I'm fine with that.  But if I see a pair of leather boxers/briefs? I'm gone!:eek::D

post #4162 of 4531
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but I feel like if you don't own a $2000 pair of Edward Snowden boots and a $10,000 Bergdahl watch that you don't belong. 

I know what you mean but I haven't gotten even the slightest inkling that because I'm not well off I don't belong here.  Let's face it.  This is a style forum and most of the people on here have money and make very good living's.  Who else is buying multiple pairs of $500 boots?  Or even one pair for that matter?  When I told the guy's I work with that I just spent $1400 on new boots they just about passed out at the thought of $600 for one pair but as I explained it's really cheaper down the road and the pain just comes with the initial investment.  Besides, I don't like cheap foreign junk and I'll wait until I can afford quality if I have to.

 

I've never saved a dime trying to pinch pennies on things I buy that I'm going to use the shit out of and clothing is something I use pretty damn hard.  Especially when it comes to footwear.  The fact of the matter is that you really can't afford to go the cheap route when it comes to some things.  Then there is the fact that cheap footwear with crappy arch support can possibly cause back and knee problems after years of wearing it.  It's just like the $300-$400 a month I spend on vitamins and herbs.  Pay now or pay later.  Can I really afford it?  Nope, I just do it anyway.

 

As for those that can buy a few pairs of White's or even something double the price without even thinking about it I have no problem with that because I like rich people.  Without them I wouldn't have had the various jobs I've had over the years.  As long as they get it on the up and up I think it's great.

post #4163 of 4531

I can easily afford a basic pair of White's every two weeks, as long as I buy absolutely nothing else.

No kids, no car, no mortgage and make sure you live in a hotbed of nothing, and it's doable.

 

Just sayin' there's more than one "poor boy" on here, and is that ever a relative position in this world!

 

Oh, and Rivendell-ist alert (you know who you are LB).

post #4164 of 4531
You mean I should be feeding those rugrats??
post #4165 of 4531

Not sure TBH, not really familiar with the species.

post #4166 of 4531
I got my farmer ranchers today. First the specs...

Farmer/Rancher
Brown oil tan
Soft toe
8"
No lining
Standard trim
Cut top
Pull loop
Brass eyelet and hooks
Plain toe
False tongue
430 sole
Standard height Cuban heel
SJ last
Single brown midsole
8D

First impressions:
-The upper is stiffer than I thought and the ball off the foot and toe area is more flexible than I expected.
-The 'Cuban' heel is great. It makes the flow of your natural gate seamless.
-I could have maybe gone down half a size but I have the 3/4" in the front like I've seen recommended.
-The arch fits perfect and is not near as pronounced as I thought it would be. I don't even notice it.
-The soft toe is comfortable and I think I'll like the look of it over time.
-Not impressed with either set of laces.

Quality boot overall. Going from my RW pull-ons that I wear now to 8" cut top thick leather, is going to be a fun break-in period.
post #4167 of 4531
Pics!
post #4168 of 4531
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Originally Posted by andy b. View Post


Louie,

I think you're a crazy bastard, that's why I laugh at most of you posts. You have some cool footwear.
But I have to say, YOU HAVE A FREAKIN' MOONLANDER. YOU'RE THE BOSS!!! All I have is the Moonlander's baby brother, the Pugsley.

Okay, back to White's Boots....


That is why I need White's boots. The steel pedal pins dig holes in my Aldens..

 

PS the bike is holding the tree up.

 

as to: But if I see a pair of leather boxers/briefs? Don't worry I wear chain link fence for under ware. Got it cheap on sale.

post #4169 of 4531

Guys.. Any reputable place to get good 5/32" leather laces.. These ones at Tandys are no longer available. Are the suggested replacements any good? The description says they might stretch a bit and the laces too look a bit rough.. 

post #4170 of 4531
Been short of pics here recently...
These are taken in standard incandescent lighting so color is a bit off, but here are the farmer ranchers I bought from White's eBay store.




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