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I love that toecap...
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Is there a significant difference in durability between Brown Dress and Brown Smooth?

Also, someone posted this picture of black CXL boots a while ago (http://cdn.styleforum.net/9/96/967074a6_image.jpeg) - I really like the way there's a sliver of brown showing on the edge of each leather panel right at the seam. As far as I can see, that's not present on the other stock black leathers as they're dyed black all the way through, which means that the only way I'd be able to get the contrast effect like that would be to order black CXL or Dress Brown like this(http://cdn.styleforum.net/7/7c/7c859f96_img56675390.jpeg) - would that be the case, or am I mistaken?
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Originally Posted by Exdeath View Post

Is there a significant difference in durability between Brown Dress and Brown Smooth?


Also, someone posted this picture of black CXL boots a while ago (http://cdn.styleforum.net/9/96/967074a6_image.jpeg) - I really like the way there's a sliver of brown showing on the edge of each leather panel right at the seam. As far as I can see, that's not present on the other stock black leathers as they're dyed black all the way through, which means that the only way I'd be able to get the contrast effect like that would be to order black CXL or Dress Brown like this(http://cdn.styleforum.net/7/7c/7c859f96_img56675390.jpeg) - would that be the case, or am I mistaken?
Is the brown smooth the same as the brown dry tan? I've handled the black dress and black dry tan extensively (I'm assuming they perform analogously). From what I've seen, they seem similar in terms of durability, but the black dress might resist scuffs a bit more. It also helps that it's dyed all the way through. The black oil tan that I've handled is very durable—I'd go with their thicker oil tan leather if durability is your main goal. I thought that both the brown dress and brown dry tan felt kind of plasticky, and wouldn't be something that I'd personally choose for a boot. 

I should also mention that the black dry tan isn't dyed all of the way through, like black CXL. Personally I prefer the feel and look of black CXL. I can't comment on how its durability compares, but like all CXL, it'll show scuffs.

edit: I mixed up the names of the black dry tan and black oil tan leather when I originally wrote this post, hence the comparison of black dry tan and black dress. The black smooth (black oil tan) that I've handled, is very thick, and very durable, much more so than the black dress leather.
Edited by misterjuiceman - 2/3/14 at 8:54am
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According to both White's and Kyle at Baker's, the brown smooth is the heaviest-duty brown White's offers. If you order a pair of standard Smokejumpers in brown, for actual wildland firefighting, the leather will be brown smooth. I have no idea how it compares to the brown dress.

The upper shaft on my SJs is brown smooth and I don't find it plasticy. It did take a while to break-in though.
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Brown dress is significantly thinner feeling than an oil tanned leather like brown smooth. Break in is immediate with it
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Originally Posted by andy b. View Post

According to both White's and Kyle at Baker's, the brown smooth is the heaviest-duty brown White's offers. If you order a pair of standard Smokejumpers in brown, for actual wildland firefighting, the leather will be brown smooth. I have no idea how it compares to the brown dress.

The upper shaft on my SJs is brown smooth and I don't find it plasticy. It did take a while to break-in though.

Sorry—the oil tan leather isn't plasticky at all. When I wrote my post, I got the names mixed up and thought that the dry tan leather was the smooth, not the oil tan. My samples didn't have "black smooth" on them, only "black oil tan," so I didn't realize until you guys posted.

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Hi guys, I'm about to place an order via Baker's.

I need to clear one question, does the lining on the Bounty Hunters affect the size in a way that is mandatory to size up half?

 

Thanks!

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Hi guys, I'm about to place an order via Baker's.

I need to clear one question, does the lining on the Bounty Hunters affect the size in a way that is mandatory to size up half?

 

Thanks!

The shoe is lasted after the liner is attached to the upper, so it shouldn't affect the size, as long as you're not counting on it to stretch in order to fit.

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Thanks Mr., i appreciate the help!
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How you guys pick the right shoe trees for your White's boots? I have a White's Classic size 7.5,  advice will be appreciated.

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I've gotten by just using a cedar tree that's sized for the same size as my pair.

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Originally Posted by Exdeath View Post

I really like the way there's a sliver of brown showing on the edge of each leather panel right at the seam. As far as I can see, that's not present on the other stock black leathers as they're dyed black all the way through, which means that the only way I'd be able to get the contrast effect like that would be to order black CXL or Dress Brown like this - would that be the case, or am I mistaken?

 

Yeah, I've always liked that undyed leather edge as well.  You can also get it on the horsehide, available only from Baker's on White's Semi-dress.

 

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Originally Posted by misterjuiceman View Post

The shoe is lasted after the liner is attached to the upper, so it shouldn't affect the size, as long as you're not counting on it to stretch in order to fit.

misterjuiceman is 100% correct.
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Question for you. Can you tell me what you notice is the difference between the SJ last and the BH/SD last? Photos to demonstrate?

 

Thanks

Ken

 

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Originally Posted by 2eleven View Post
 

Fedex delivered a box from Baker's yesterday. :-)

 

New bounty hunters on the left, not so new SJs on the right: 

 

A few more of the new ones:

 

 

 

 

And the build:


Custom White's Smoke Jumper
Counter Leather Natural Chrome Excel by Horween, Hardware Antique Eyes & Hooks, Celastic Toe Box Single Celastic Toe, Height 8", Last Semi Dress (Bounty Hunter), Steel Toe No Thanks, Upper (Shaft) Leather Natural Chrome Excel by Horween, Toe Cap No Thanks, Toe Vamp Leather Natural Chrome Excel by Horween, Top Cut Top (standard), Midsole Single, Leather Liner Cream, Size - Width D (medium), Lace Design Plain Toe, Sole Vibram 430 Mini Vib, Toe Cap Leather Color Does not apply, Edge Brown, Size - Length 9, Sole Trim Close Trim

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