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post #2896 of 3634

Anyone have any experience in ordering a heel lowered by 1/2"?  I know the standard lowering is 1/4, but White's says you can do up to 1/2.  I also know lots of guys don't like the lowered heel, but for those who do, any experience with how 1/2" looks or feels?  I'd love to see pics if possible...  thanks.

post #2897 of 3634
Hi lina^, I own and have owned the standard and 1/4 lowered heeled boots and i much prefer the feel of the lowered, the Arch is still balanced right, it doesn't feel as you are tipping back and strange I'm sure but i like the stability of my feet feeling closer to the floor, plus asthetically it wins for me, just, as long as it's been trimmed in close enough around the heel, depends who's trimming at the workshop! An easy fix though. Double leather and vibram sole on a boot and then lowered can look and I imagine feel wrong, again depends how the heel height gets adjusted to the rest of the sole and who does it. 1/2 lowered, although the idea sounds good (if service boot heels appeal) and I would love to hear about and see some, I do think that until the arch has moulded and flattened a bit that the boots will be out of balance and you'll feel it, could be wrong and just a thought. Cheers. Actually just for info, from experience the lowest heel that looks and feels balanced by White's that you'll get is either when you order a lowered double leather sole or half lug that is cut into the leather sole. Cheers.
post #2898 of 3634
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Originally Posted by EastWestApparel View Post

Hi lina^, I own and have owned the standard and 1/4 lowered heeled boots and i much prefer the feel of the lowered, the Arch is still balanced right, it doesn't feel as you are tipping back and strange I'm sure but i like the stability of my feet feeling closer to the floor, plus asthetically it wins for me, just, as long as it's been trimmed in close enough around the heel, depends who's trimming at the workshop! An easy fix though. Double leather and vibram sole on a boot and then lowered can look and I imagine feel wrong, again depends how the heel height gets adjusted to the rest of the sole and who does it. 1/2 lowered, although the idea sounds good (if service boot heels appeal) and I would love to hear about and see some, I do think that until the arch has moulded and flattened a bit that the boots will be out of balance and you'll feel it, could be wrong and just a thought. Cheers. Actually just for info, from experience the lowest heel that looks and feels balanced by White's that you'll get is either when you order a lowered double leather sole or half lug that is cut into the leather sole. Cheers.

 

Thanks for the info and thoughts.  Yeah, I agree completely about feeling better closer to the ground.  I had a beautiful pair of Viberg 310s with a White's-sized heel, and I could never get used to walking with them, always felt teetering.  I am now on the verge of ordering either a pair of SDs in Horsehide ( I am a big fan of the HH ) or SJs probably in black CXL (I like the SJ look, but really want horsehide, which is available only in SD).  So am looking for a lower heel, though I think you are probably right that 1/2" is too much...

post #2899 of 3634
Lina, I've heard great things about the horse strip White's sources for its SDs. Supposed to take on a beautiful patina. You doing lowered block or Cuban heel? Regardless, I think 1/4" would be low enough depending on which sole you went with (269 will get you even lower than double leather, right?)

Btw- saw you posted your HH Vibergs up for sale; sorry to hear those didn't work out as they were grail boots IMO. Nothin beats the comfort of White's tho smile.gif
post #2900 of 3634
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Originally Posted by b-ewing View Post

Lina, I've heard great things about the horse strip White's sources for its SDs. Supposed to take on a beautiful patina. You doing lowered block or Cuban heel? Regardless, I think 1/4" would be low enough depending on which sole you went with (269 will get you even lower than double leather, right?)

Btw- saw you posted your HH Vibergs up for sale; sorry to hear those didn't work out as they were grail boots IMO. Nothin beats the comfort of White's tho smile.gif


Thanks b-ewing.  Yeah, the Vibergs got me hooked on horsehide, and now it's hard to go back...  But couldn't get the right fit with Viberg, so am going to try White's.  I'll go lowered, block heel for sure.

post #2901 of 3634

I'm curious, does anybody use leather protector of any sort on the soles?  I went with a brown edge, but we've had a pretty wet winter in Boston, and the color has significantly faded in a couple of the leather strips in the heel stacks.  I'm tempted to hit the edges with a coat of Obenaufs (the 2 coats I applied to the rest of the boot prior to the winter has worked beautifully).  I'm hoping that it can bring some of the color back but I'm unsure if it will have any effect at all.  Anybody else done this with their boots?

post #2902 of 3634
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Originally Posted by aaronjared View Post
 

I'm curious, does anybody use leather protector of any sort on the soles?  I went with a brown edge, but we've had a pretty wet winter in Boston, and the color has significantly faded in a couple of the leather strips in the heel stacks.  I'm tempted to hit the edges with a coat of Obenaufs (the 2 coats I applied to the rest of the boot prior to the winter has worked beautifully).  I'm hoping that it can bring some of the color back but I'm unsure if it will have any effect at all.  Anybody else done this with their boots?

I'd recommend using edge dressing (I use the Allen Edmonds version), as that'll help re-dye the leather, and will help to protect/seal the edges for the future.  I've actually heard of people having issues with obenaufing the midsoles where it leads to splitting/delaminating, so I'd avoid that.

post #2903 of 3634
I believe White`s uses Fiebings for the midsoles but any other products as mentioned should work just as good.
post #2904 of 3634
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Originally Posted by aaronjared View Post
 

I'm curious, does anybody use leather protector of any sort on the soles?  I went with a brown edge, but we've had a pretty wet winter in Boston, and the color has significantly faded in a couple of the leather strips in the heel stacks.  I'm tempted to hit the edges with a coat of Obenaufs (the 2 coats I applied to the rest of the boot prior to the winter has worked beautifully).  I'm hoping that it can bring some of the color back but I'm unsure if it will have any effect at all.  Anybody else done this with their boots?

 

I don't know from experience, but I do know that on the side of Viberg boot boxes they have some care tips, one of which is, Don't use boot grease on the edges of your soles, as it can eventually case the stacked leather to separate and split.  I don't know though, seems like once or twice would be fine...

post #2905 of 3634
I've dubbed up my midsoles and heels plenty of times without even thinking about it. Could see why the leather would separate over time, but I wouldn't overthink this too much; we are talking about workbooks here wink.gif
post #2906 of 3634
Thanks for the help everyone. I'm glad I didn't apply Obenaufs first and ask questions later. I'll give the AE edge treatment a try. Here's a pic of my natty cxl bounty hunters. Worn them every day since I received them mid October. I brush them every day to keep them nice and clean. Love the color they are taking on.

post #2907 of 3634
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Originally Posted by b-ewing View Post

Lina, I've heard great things about the horse strip White's sources for its SDs. Supposed to take on a beautiful patina. You doing lowered block or Cuban heel? Regardless, I think 1/4" would be low enough depending on which sole you went with (269 will get you even lower than double leather, right?)

Btw- saw you posted your HH Vibergs up for sale; sorry to hear those didn't work out as they were grail boots IMO. Nothin beats the comfort of White's tho smile.gif


May I know what are the great things you've heard about horse strip from White's sources?
I own a pair of White's SD with brown horsehide.. It is probably about 3 months old with wears only on weekends so no significant patina has developed.

post #2908 of 3634

These look great!  I like the way this natural CXL has worn much better than my Oak Street Trench boots, which very quickly just turned brown...  These still have a good bit of "natural" tone to them.

 

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Originally Posted by aaronjared View Post

Thanks for the help everyone. I'm glad I didn't apply Obenaufs first and ask questions later. I'll give the AE edge treatment a try. Here's a pic of my natty cxl bounty hunters. Worn them every day since I received them mid October. I brush them every day to keep them nice and clean. Love the color they are taking on.

post #2909 of 3634
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Originally Posted by aaronjared View Post

Thanks for the help everyone. I'm glad I didn't apply Obenaufs first and ask questions later. I'll give the AE edge treatment a try. Here's a pic of my natty cxl bounty hunters. Worn them every day since I received them mid October. I brush them every day to keep them nice and clean. Love the color they are taking on.


Those look great! Every time I think I know what brown to get, someone posts a photo that makes me try to decide all over again.

And thanks all for the sole edge care tips. I have applied Obenauf's a few time to my sole edges and never gave it any thought. I guess I will use it more sparingly. I would think up by the ball of the foot it wouldn't matter much since the layers are held together with stitching, but I can see it being more of a concern in the heel where most of it is glued together.

Andy B.
post #2910 of 3634

FINALLY!!!

Just got my black Horse Hide SD delivered!

 

All black Horse Hide

Lowered block heel

Close trim

Sole 269 vibram

Brown egde

Antique hooks and eyelets

Single celastic

 

 

My concern was about sizing: I had sent a couple of time my tracings and measurements to both White's and Baker's, they found me different sizes and width... I finally trusted Kyle from Baker's, as you guys told me to do, and I did well: perfect fitting!

 

So first filling: comfort! And what a beautifull craftmanship! The quality of the construction and materials is beyond what I expected.

 

 

Thanks to all you guys! This thread is great, I spent a lot of time here, but it wasen't wasted time.

 

I'm starting the break-in tomorrow. I feel it won't be long, for the Horse Hide is really supple, even if it is thick.

 

 I'll post some pics soon if someone is interested in this configuration.

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