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post #2851 of 3609
n00b question...

what is the difference between 'close trim' and 'standard trim' when selecting the sole trim during the build a boot process?

TIA.
post #2852 of 3609
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Originally Posted by bellyhungry View Post

n00b question...

what is the difference between 'close trim' and 'standard trim' when selecting the sole trim during the build a boot process?

TIA.

It means how wide the edge of the sole is. If you look at some White's, you'll see that they're double-stitched around the edge and others are single-stitched...the latter of which is "close trim." This is mostly aesthetics, but a close trim can potentially reduce the number of recrafts you can do (according to White's).
post #2853 of 3609
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Originally Posted by cathpah View Post

It means how wide the edge of the sole is. If you look at some White's, you'll see that they're double-stitched around the edge and others are single-stitched...the latter of which is "close trim." This is mostly aesthetics, but a close trim can potentially reduce the number of recrafts you can do (according to White's).

Thank you for the explanation. Much appreciated smile.gif
Edited by bellyhungry - 12/28/13 at 4:48pm
post #2854 of 3609
Single-stitched looks slightly sleeker, like an Alden boot.
Double-stitched gives the front of the boot a wider base. More workwear.
It's mainly aesthetics... assuming you won't wear these for 20 years and need multiple resoles, or wade through slush on a daily basis.
post #2855 of 3609

I don't want to sound crotchety or mean but I think the close trim option is one of those options that just ruins the boots for me. I feel like a huge part of what makes a pair of White's look like White's is the double row of stitching. 

 

I feel like close trim, block heel, lowered heel just takes all the mojo out of the boots. So I prefer to leave the boots as close to standard as possible. 

 

*** this really has nothing to do with the question asked about "what close trim means" but is just something I was thinking about since close trim was brought up. Also not meant to put anyone down for owning boots with close trim, lowered heels, or block heels - to each his own. ***  

post #2856 of 3609
I agree, tho think the block heel has its place.
Viberg has a soft toe, lowered heel look. So have buttero, fiorentini & baker, etc.
White's double-stitching and heel height of 1.5" is part of a signature work boot look.
Even their standard semi-dress brown workboot with slant heel is fantastic!
Sometimes it's the simple things that you wear the most often smile.gif
post #2857 of 3609
The brilliance of White's total MTO program is that everyone can have it their way ala Burger King

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post #2858 of 3609
Guys,
I'm thinking about my next pair of semi-dress boots. I'm leaning towards the natural chrome excel. However, some folks have said that cxl tends to stretch. Therefore, do you recommend that I get them lined or unlined. Will lining them reduce the stretch? Thanks.
post #2859 of 3609
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Originally Posted by sammy View Post

Guys,
I'm thinking about my next pair of semi-dress boots. I'm leaning towards the natural chrome excel. However, some folks have said that cxl tends to stretch. Therefore, do you recommend that I get them lined or unlined. Will lining them reduce the stretch? Thanks.

 

I have a pair of Oak Street Bootmaker boots in natural CXL.  Don't think I would get them again.  They pick up every little scratch and bump, and that's okay if you don't mind your boots looking marked up, but it seems like a fake "evo" to me.  You can rub out the marks quite a bit, as people point out, but it's a bit of pain and not all come out.  Also, with the first treatment with an conditioner the natural CXL turns a genuine brown, losing it's distinctive color.

 

As far as your actual question about stretching, these do seem to stretch a fair amount, and hte leather is very soft.  Mine are not lined around the shaft of the boot, and they tend to collapse there very easily when I try to put them on.

 

So, I think the leather is fine if you know what you are getting into, and don't mind them turning brown, but I would definitely get them lined.

post #2860 of 3609
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Originally Posted by linafelt View Post

I have a pair of Oak Street Bootmaker boots in natural CXL.  Don't think I would get them again.  They pick up every little scratch and bump, and that's okay if you don't mind your boots looking marked up, but it seems like a fake "evo" to me.  You can rub out the marks quite a bit, as people point out, but it's a bit of pain and not all come out.  Also, with the first treatment with an conditioner the natural CXL turns a genuine brown, losing it's distinctive color.

As far as your actual question about stretching, these do seem to stretch a fair amount, and hte leather is very soft.  Mine are not lined around the shaft of the boot, and they tend to collapse there very easily when I try to put them on.

So, I think the leather is fine if you know what you are getting into, and don't mind them turning brown, but I would definitely get them lined.

Thanks for the feedback. If I go with natural cxl, then I will get them lined. I don't mind the marks and such. I actually want the boots to mark up and get a nice brown patina. That's my reason for choosing cxl. The pics I've seen of other broken in natty cxl look great. My other choice would be British Tan.
post #2861 of 3609
Natural CXL ages beautifully. If you want a leather that doesn't mark, don't get a pull-up leather, get cordovan or similar.

Second on getting them lined. My semi-dress pair are lined in white glove-soft leather and they are very comfy.

They still stretched more than my dark brown standard pair, which are unlined. It's not that big a deal, when laced the sides of the upper just meet about 1/2" further together.
post #2862 of 3609
Alright guys, its a toss up between natty cxl and british tan for my next pair of SDs. What's your vote?
post #2863 of 3609
I'd go for natural cxl or distressed brown (especially if you're wanting the look of natty cxl but more toughness). Both will age similarly. British tan is a wee bit too orange/red for my taste. And i think natty cxl or distressed brown are more versatile. Or so I have currently told myself!

To the issue of lining or not; pls correct me if I'm wrong but aren't we just talking about the upper shaft? Eg the vamp is always lined if I'm not mistaken, right? Or perhaps leather lined is in addition to this?
post #2864 of 3609
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Originally Posted by b-ewing View Post

To the issue of lining or not; pls correct me if I'm wrong but aren't we just talking about the upper shaft? Eg the vamp is always lined if I'm not mistaken, right? Or perhaps leather lined is in addition to this?

Yeah you are absolutely right as i just check my BH upon reading your comment  the vamp is lined. :D 

thanks for the info.

post #2865 of 3609

Eastwest mentioned here, no toe box but lined so pretty hardy! if it is standard for boots to be lined in the vamp, does it mean i will get  double lining in vamp if i choose the lined option?

http://www.eastwestapparel.co.uk/Whites-Boots?product_id=109

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