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post #1906 of 5000

Hey daizawaguy, how are your Navy CXL Semi-Dress boots holding up? The boots I ordered are inspired in part by your boots and I’m really curious about how the navy CXL looks after a little use. Mind posting a picture of how they are ageing?biggrin.gif

 

Thanks

post #1907 of 5000

Thanks for the sample leather pics. I saw the ones on East West Apparel's website as well. I was hoping to locate a full boot made in either of those leathers. But partial use is quite good. I am liking oil tan over Brown Smooth so far.

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Originally Posted by andy b. View Post

I don't have any side-by-side photos, and I don't own anything in Brown Oil Tan, but my SJs are Brown Smooth and black roughout, and unless you're in bright light, the Brown Smooth is very dark, almost black. There are a few pics of my SJs back a few pages in this thread. In fact, when I received them I thought there was a mistake and they were built in all black leather. I think if you had a pair of boots in all Brown Smooth that most people would think they were black. Most of the online photos I see don't make the Brown Smooth look that dark because they have a lot of lighting.

Granted, leather color can vary a bit from lot to lot.

Andy B.

Are you sure that isn't Brown Dress which is nearly Black. Brown Smooth or Brown Oil tan are different which are the pictures I am after.
post #1908 of 5000
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Originally Posted by kenucklehead View Post

@tigerpac

 

I'm not worried about darkening. I just don't want black for the boots I'm thinking of. I did see a few older dress browns and thought they were black. I like the leather but just don't think it's the right one for my custom order. I do like a rich, medium dark brown and the leathers I've seen that are the closest are the Brown CXL and the Brown HH.

 

@Allan

 

Thanks for the input. There was a photo (can't seem to find it) of a pair of brown HH next to a brown satchel. The brown was so rich and beautiful. It was this photo that got me thinking of using HH. Was that your photo? Do you have any recent photos to share?

 

Kenucklehead -- Yes, those were my photos of the HH SDs and the Saddleback Classic Briefcase. I don't have any more recent photos of the boots at this point, but I can tell you they don't look much different. I'll try to get some more photos posted anyway so you can see. You cannot go wrong with the HH. I have seen many of the leathers that White's uses, since we have a dealer here in town where I live who has dozens of White's boots in stock, none of which are in my size. It is nice to be able to compare leathers and boot styles. There is no other leather White's typically uses that looks as nice as HH, at least in my opinion. If they offered that choice of leather in any other White's boot style, I would probably buy it.

 

Allan

post #1909 of 5000

Are you saying the HH is only available for SD boots? I was looking at getting Bounty Hunters.

post #1910 of 5000
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Originally Posted by palma View Post


Are you sure that isn't Brown Dress which is nearly Black. Brown Smooth or Brown Oil tan are different which are the pictures I am after.

Positive. My SJs are Black Roughout (black smooth reversed with the rough side out) , and Brown Smooth. Here is the order acknowledgement:

Products on order:
1 x White's Smoke Jumper Standard Last - $454.95
SKU: 400
Leather 1: Brown Smooth
Leather 2: Black Rough Out
Toe Vamp Leather: Black Rough Out
Toe Cap Leather: None
Celastic Toe Box: Single
Steel Toe: No
Heel Counter Leather: Black Rough Out
Height: 10"
Upper (Shaft) Leather : Brown Smooth
Leather Liner: No Thanks
Sole Trim: Standard Trim
Top: Cut
Back Stay Leather: Black Rough Out
Pull Loop: Yes
Eyelet Color: Brass
Eyelet Configuration : Hook and Eyelet
Top Garment: Eyelet
Lace Design: Lace to Toe
Lace: Leather
False Tongue: None
Sole: Vib 100
Half Slip: No
Heel Shape: Curve
Heel Height: Standard
Last: 461 Classic Last
Midsole: Double
Midsole/Edge Color: Brown
Size - Length: 9.5
Size - Width: E


I have only had these since the beginning of the year, and I haven't worn them in the summer, so I can't say if the leather will lighten over time, but so far the Brown Smooth is very dark in person. Much darker than I was expecting. In fact, it is one of the reasons I am thinking of getting another pair in distressed brown or horse hide because I want something lighter in color.

Andy B.
post #1911 of 5000
I believe the horsehide is a Baker's exclusive that is only offered in the Semi-dress boots. You can call or email to confirm that.

Allan
post #1912 of 5000
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Originally Posted by Okal View Post

I believe the horsehide is a Baker's exclusive that is only offered in the Semi-dress boots. You can call or email to confirm that.

Allan


What is the difference between horsehide and cordovan leather?  Is it nearly the same quality as Alden Cordovan?  

post #1913 of 5000

cordovan is a horse's butt that has been dyed and tanned for a long long time in a certain way by horween.

post #1914 of 5000

@ Everyone,

 

At some point in time every boot owner will have to clean their boots. I try to wait as long as possible to clean mine with an actual leather cleaner, in part because I have had VERY bad luck with numerous cleaning products (including Lexol Leather Cleaner). On my most precious pairs I refuse to use such products, and use conditioning/cleaning products like Bick 4 Conditioner. With that said, what products does everyone use AND how do they apply it? (Please let me know if you do use Lexol, and if so what is your method?)

 

Jack

post #1915 of 5000
I have had good results with fiebings saddle soap lately, warm water and a soft brush works up a nice lather then wipe off dirt and soap with a damp cloth. I let them dry for 24 hours then apply obenaufs hd and let that soak in overnight. Brush the next day with a horsehair brush and I'm done. On dress boots that don't get that dirty I'll use saphir renovator applied with a soft cotton cloth, this cleans really well, then brush once dry, apply a good creme polish and if I want them really shiny apply a wax after that
post #1916 of 5000
I never use saddle soap because it dries leather out too much.
post #1917 of 5000
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Originally Posted by Edmund K View Post


What is the difference between horsehide and cordovan leather?  Is it nearly the same quality as Alden Cordovan?  

Yes, there is a big difference, although the "horsehide" White's uses is incredibly nice and has more character than shell cordovan. True shell cordovan is only produced in the USA by Horween, and is from the butt hide of a horse. The special, complex tanning process produces comparatively small "shells" of hide that are very dense and have special properties that make them ideal in certain applications, such as some boots and shoes. Here is a video where you can learn much more about this remarkable (and expensive) leather. http://vimeo.com/4814754

A pair of White's semi-dress boots made from shell cordovan cost about twice as much as a pair of SDs in the "horsehide". When I was growing up, cordovan was just a little more expensive than calf hide and lasted much longer, so my parents always bought me cordovan dress shoes to SAVE MONEY because I couldn't wear them out as quickly!

Allan
post #1918 of 5000
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Originally Posted by Okal View Post


Yes, there is a big difference, although the "horsehide" White's uses is incredibly nice and has more character than shell cordovan. True shell cordovan is only produced in the USA by Horween, and is from the butt hide of a horse. The special, complex tanning process produces comparatively small "shells" of hide that are very dense and have special properties that make them ideal in certain applications, such as some boots and shoes. Here is a video where you can learn much more about this remarkable (and expensive) leather. http://vimeo.com/4814754

A pair of White's semi-dress boots made from shell cordovan cost about twice as much as a pair of SDs in the "horsehide". When I was growing up, cordovan was just a little more expensive than calf hide and lasted much longer, so my parents always bought me cordovan dress shoes to SAVE MONEY because I couldn't wear them out as quickly!

Allan


Thanks for the info Allan!  It is a nice description about cordovan leather.  This is hysterical to buy cordovan shoe to save money.  love it.

post #1919 of 5000

Worked with Kyle at Bakers over the past few weeks and just finalized the order:

 

Black Shark
Standard last
Black eyelets with hooks
Black liner - cut off top
Black heal and edges
Medallion toe cap
Standard Cuban heel
Size 9.5 D 
No pull tab
Double stitching
Regular leather sole
Single mid-sole
 
We were not able to find any pictures of SD's in black shark so I am not sure what they will end up looking like.  I guess I will find out in 3 or 4 months. lookaround.gif
post #1920 of 5000

Love the leap of faith - good luck!

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