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post #1321 of 5047
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Originally Posted by Brian Itzaina View Post

After a very generous coat of sno seal and a day of walking.

I also threw some leather laces on.

 

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Moar: http://www.flickr.com/photos/somuchforsale/sets/72157632921709021/with/8536117767/

 

Those really look fantastic after your regimen! Darkened slightly but lots of depth, looks almost 3D. Love it!

 

For reference, these are my Trench boots in natural after a couple of months and some HDLP.

 

 

 

A much less substantial boot but the same leather.

post #1322 of 5047

I think I should share this 3 Tone Smoke Jumper with you fellas. rimshot.gif

 

The Red is Red Dog Smooth

Blue is NAVY CXL

Grey is Moon Grey Bull Hide

Vibram 100 Lug Sole with Lowered 1/4 Inch Blocked Heel

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #1323 of 5047
17 weeks was a long fuckin wait. Ordered them on November 10th.

Tan bull uppers, black roughout lowers, brown double midsole, vibram 705 half sole

post #1324 of 5047
MarioImpemba,

I find the speed hooks helpful since I use White's leather laces which are thick. The thick laces fit snug in the speed hook so that when I tie the lace, the lace does not loosen while I finish the knot. Those people at White's are always thinking.

Regards.
post #1325 of 5047
gd1944,

Awesome boots. Color combination is really unique --people will definitely take notice. I think White's has cornered the market on red dog smooth leather. If White's ever enter's the leather jacket business with Red Dog Smooth, or Blck Horse Hide or the Brown they use in the standard semi-dress, Schott will definitely go out of business.

Keep kickin',

Frankman
post #1326 of 5047
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Originally Posted by gd1944 View Post

I think I should share this 3 Tone Smoke Jumper with you fellas. rimshot.gif

 

The Red is Red Dog Smooth

Blue is NAVY CXL

Grey is Moon Grey Bull Hide

Vibram 100 Lug Sole with Lowered 1/4 Inch Blocked Heel

 

I think I'd personally like it more with just two-tone with the red and grey, but it's still a good lookin' boot. That grey bull is really interesting.

 

 

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Originally Posted by king*stink View Post

17 weeks was a long fuckin wait. Ordered them on November 10th.

Tan bull uppers, black roughout lowers, brown double midsole, vibram 705 half sole

 

That wait is brutal, but they look awesome.

 

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Originally Posted by frankman View Post

MarioImpemba,

I find the speed hooks helpful since I use White's leather laces which are thick. The thick laces fit snug in the speed hook so that when I tie the lace, the lace does not loosen while I finish the knot. Those people at White's are always thinking.

Regards.

 

I do love the functionality of speed-hooks, just feel the 2-speedhook look is awkward. Thanks for feedback.

post #1327 of 5047
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Originally Posted by MarioImpemba View Post

Man, semi-dress with all eyelets looks so good. I'm a big proponent of speed-hooks, but I think eyelets would be a non-issue with the standard shaft-height semi-dress, and look so much better than only (2) speedhooks at top, which I find aesthetically unbalanced and offputting.

 

I knew I wanted all eyelets from the get go. That is also why I went with leather pull loops. I can get in and out of them just as easily as with speed hooks just about. I also like how clean it looks.

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Originally Posted by patrick_b View Post

 

Those really look fantastic after your regimen! Darkened slightly but lots of depth, looks almost 3D. Love it!

 

For reference, these are my Trench boots in natural after a couple of months and some HDLP.

 

 

A much less substantial boot but the same leather.

Those trench boots look nice, I love natural cxl on anything!

 

Mine darkened quite a bit and I love it every bit.

I embrace whatever sort of patina comes my way whether it be natural, spilling beer at the bar, nicking the forklift or oil stains.

 

Here we are after a few days or work and play in these bad boys. Getting more and more comfortable and I am SO VERY happy with the size. They are darkening up a bit and the left shoe is a bit darker.

 

Anybody have any cxl suggestions for treating nicks here and there?

I was thinking a light coat of Obenauf leather oil after a long week?

 

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post #1328 of 5047
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Originally Posted by Brian Itzaina View Post

 

Anybody have any cxl suggestions for treating nicks here and there?

I was thinking a light coat of Obenauf leather oil after a long week?

 

 

 

With my Brown CXLs (treated originally with Obenauf's LP) it's enough just to give them a good brushing. Every once in a while I need to reapply the Obenauf's but with an oil-stuffed leather like CXL, a horsehair brush will bring the color back without much effort.

post #1329 of 5047

Now THAT is a custom pair of boots! Nice...

post #1330 of 5047

i'd throw obenaufs on them and hit them with a horsehair brush for 15-20 minutes, the nicks will disappear.

post #1331 of 5047
You don't see a lot of SDs with pull tabs...I like it! Also a big fan of all eyelets, so clean. Great looking boots.
post #1332 of 5047

Here are my Wolverine CXL's...

 

Deep scuff:

 

 

 

Literally 30 seconds of brushing and nothing else:

 

 

 

A brush is all you should need on CXL most days.

post #1333 of 5047

Hi Everyone, 

 

I've been lurking on this forum for several months trying to decide what to do with my boot situation.  I have some Made in China Danner Hikers from 2001 that are pretty nearly worn out. They also seem slightly short on my left foot, I think they always were but it is becoming less tolerable as the GoreTex bootie hardens with ages and falls down into the toe space.  My left foot small toes have been very sensitive lately, even in shoes that I have had for years.  I Brannock a 10.5D on the left and a 10D on the right.  Shoe sales folks tell me I am slightly wide in front and slightly narrow at the heel with a low rise though the instep.

 

I was hoping to get some Made in USA boots as replacements.  I live in the city now and do considerably less outdoors stuff than I used to.  I need a boot that is mostly for errands fall through spring in Chicago but can go off road a couple times a year when needed.  My first thought was RW Beckmans but they felt very strange to my feet.  The Iron Rangers felt pretty good but the sole scared me off.  All I could envision was slip sliding my way through winter and the couple times a year I go off road.  My next thought was Danner Explorer boots.  More practical, bulky and less stylish but they aren't available locally and the 10.5D ones ordered in seemed very narrow in the toebox.  I continued my search and began reading about Whites SD and Wolverine 1K boots.  My local Nordstroms brought in a size 10 1K boot and I thought it seemed rather loose despite the laces, particularly towards the top, being nearly together. With leather stretching out I decided that I would likely need the 9.5 1K.  I also dislike the idea needing to take an expensive boot to the cobbler immediately to add a rubber outsole for winter/offroad traction.  With that thought in mind the Whites boots seemed like they would come with the sole I wanted straight from the factory for little additional dollars over the 1K's.  I traced my feet, mentioned my recent toe sensitivity and sent a letter to bakers.  When bakers called they said that with the toe issues and foot shape that I was a perfect candidate for the swing last.  They just happened to have a return on hand and offered to send it to me to at the very least confirm the size for a special order.  Over the phone I got the following details about the boot.  

 

White's Semi Dress - Dress Brown Leather - Swing Last - No Celastic Toe - Cream Liner - Antique Hardware - Close Trim - 10D

 

Out of the box the the right foot seemed very happy in the shoe although the left seemed unsure of the arch ease.  I understand this takes more wears to get used to.  Plenty of room in the toe box.  I know right away that I dislike the look of the non celastic toe.  Usually the toes of boots and shoes are my favorite part and I just hate these.  My real questions from this post are as follows.  Hoping that those who have experienced the White's process before can shed some light.  

 

Fit:  Neither heel seems to register against the back of the boot.  This seems like heel slip to the extreme.  My feet don't have the same contours as the boots along the achilles.  I have tried to force my heels back as much as possible but I think my feet are settling on the arch support rather than into the heel cup.  Is this an indicator of the wrong size or will this very stiff part of the boot loosen up in time and allow my heels to seat in there properly?

 

Finish:  I was told that these boots were close trim.  Seeing pictures online I think they are some strange hybrid of Standard and Close.  There are two lines of stitching visible on the bottom of the shoe.  From the top the second line is not through the dress brown leather, only the sole leather and in some places is covered by the dress brown leather.  There are places where the sole and the dress brown leather show chew marks/cuts from the stitching.  I really dislike this. There are few pictures where you can really see the stitch down.  I would be really disappointed to do a custom order with close trim and wait 2+ months to have it look like this.  Is this what the standard trim normally looks like?  Would a proper close trim look better?

 

 

I do intend to call Baker's to set up the return and see what they say.  I am hoping to get some feedback here as well to help me decide if I still want to do a custom order.  

Thanks for your help in advance.  

post #1334 of 5047
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Itzaina View Post

 

 

 

Anybody have any cxl suggestions for treating nicks here and there?

I was thinking a light coat of Obenauf leather oil after a long week?

 

I read that Nick Horween recommends either Neetsfoot oil or Venetian shoe cream for treating CXL...

post #1335 of 5047
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Originally Posted by kbjack View Post

 

With my Brown CXLs (treated originally with Obenauf's LP) it's enough just to give them a good brushing. Every once in a while I need to reapply the Obenauf's but with an oil-stuffed leather like CXL, a horsehair brush will bring the color back without much effort.

 

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Originally Posted by the shivman View Post

i'd throw obenaufs on them and hit them with a horsehair brush for 15-20 minutes, the nicks will disappear.

 

My thoughts exactly. If you've already applied a coat of Obenauf HDLP to the entire boot, you may be able to blend the scratches with just some brushing. For a heavy/deep nick, you could spot apply some HDLP to the damaged area and follow it up with brushing. I've never tried a deer bone but it would probably do the trick as well. I've seen it work wonders on deep scratches on shell so it might be worth a shot.

 

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Originally Posted by AT83 View Post

Hi Everyone, 

 

I've been lurking on this forum for several months trying to decide what to do with my boot situation. 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

I have some Made in China Danner Hikers from 2001 that are pretty nearly worn out. They also seem slightly short on my left foot, I think they always were but it is becoming less tolerable as the GoreTex bootie hardens with ages and falls down into the toe space.  My left foot small toes have been very sensitive lately, even in shoes that I have had for years.  I Brannock a 10.5D on the left and a 10D on the right.  Shoe sales folks tell me I am slightly wide in front and slightly narrow at the heel with a low rise though the instep.

 

I was hoping to get some Made in USA boots as replacements.  I live in the city now and do considerably less outdoors stuff than I used to.  I need a boot that is mostly for errands fall through spring in Chicago but can go off road a couple times a year when needed.  My first thought was RW Beckmans but they felt very strange to my feet.  The Iron Rangers felt pretty good but the sole scared me off.  All I could envision was slip sliding my way through winter and the couple times a year I go off road.  My next thought was Danner Explorer boots.  More practical, bulky and less stylish but they aren't available locally and the 10.5D ones ordered in seemed very narrow in the toebox.  I continued my search and began reading about Whites SD and Wolverine 1K boots.  My local Nordstroms brought in a size 10 1K boot and I thought it seemed rather loose despite the laces, particularly towards the top, being nearly together. With leather stretching out I decided that I would likely need the 9.5 1K.  I also dislike the idea needing to take an expensive boot to the cobbler immediately to add a rubber outsole for winter/offroad traction.  With that thought in mind the Whites boots seemed like they would come with the sole I wanted straight from the factory for little additional dollars over the 1K's.  I traced my feet, mentioned my recent toe sensitivity and sent a letter to bakers.  When bakers called they said that with the toe issues and foot shape that I was a perfect candidate for the swing last.  They just happened to have a return on hand and offered to send it to me to at the very least confirm the size for a special order.  Over the phone I got the following details about the boot.  

 

White's Semi Dress - Dress Brown Leather - Swing Last - No Celastic Toe - Cream Liner - Antique Hardware - Close Trim - 10D

 

Out of the box the the right foot seemed very happy in the shoe although the left seemed unsure of the arch ease.  I understand this takes more wears to get used to.  Plenty of room in the toe box.  I know right away that I dislike the look of the non celastic toe.  Usually the toes of boots and shoes are my favorite part and I just hate these.  My real questions from this post are as follows.  Hoping that those who have experienced the White's process before can shed some light.  

 

Fit:  Neither heel seems to register against the back of the boot.  This seems like heel slip to the extreme.  My feet don't have the same contours as the boots along the achilles.  I have tried to force my heels back as much as possible but I think my feet are settling on the arch support rather than into the heel cup.  Is this an indicator of the wrong size or will this very stiff part of the boot loosen up in time and allow my heels to seat in there properly?

 

Finish:  I was told that these boots were close trim.  Seeing pictures online I think they are some strange hybrid of Standard and Close.  There are two lines of stitching visible on the bottom of the shoe.  From the top the second line is not through the dress brown leather, only the sole leather and in some places is covered by the dress brown leather.  There are places where the sole and the dress brown leather show chew marks/cuts from the stitching.  I really dislike this. There are few pictures where you can really see the stitch down.  I would be really disappointed to do a custom order with close trim and wait 2+ months to have it look like this.  Is this what the standard trim normally looks like?  Would a proper close trim look better?

 

 

I do intend to call Baker's to set up the return and see what they say.

 

 

 I am hoping to get some feedback here as well to help me decide if I still want to do a custom order.  

Thanks for your help in advance.  

 

I don't have enough experience to comment on the trim questions but like you, I don't like the way those boots turned out. The non-celastic toe also seems a bit strange as well. It also sounds like you are smart enough not to try and make these fit. I'd be so tempted to shoehorn my feet into a bad situation due to my lack of patience. It's funny, dress brown, close trim, that vibram sole and standard/cuban heel are all specs that I'd want in a pair of SD's. However, if the fit is off even a little, you are doing the right thing by returning them and starting from scratch. But avoiding the 2 month build time is a dream, isn't it?

 

With all that said, just because these don't fit well or meet your aesthetic expectations doesn't mean you couldn't build up a pair that fit well and look exactly how you'd like.

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