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post #46 of 57

I bought a variety of JAB cashmere and merino sweaters over 2 years ago. They all still look great...no shininess....no fuzziness. Women like to rub their hands on them. I wore one last night and my date loved it. The sweaters were $20 or less. I think that the investment was justified. The only issue is that I had to take them to a tailor to have them slimmed down, but that's the case with otr clothes that I buy from almost every store.

post #47 of 57
Loro Piana baby cashmere

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post #48 of 57
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Originally Posted by VinnyMac View Post

I bought a variety of JAB cashmere and merino sweaters over 2 years ago. They all still look great...no shininess....no fuzziness. Women like to rub their hands on them. I wore one last night and my date loved it. The sweaters were $20 or less. I think that the investment was justified. The only issue is that I had to take them to a tailor to have them slimmed down, but that's the case with otr clothes that I buy from almost every store.


That's a good tip.  I'll have to check them out on JAB's next 75% off sale.

post #49 of 57

Hey,

 

what brand give most bang for the buck for cashmere sweaters in small sizes?

I am interested in buying a good cashmere sweater, that would be my first, and I can't afford expensive brands like Brunello Cucinelli and Loro Piana right now.

post #50 of 57
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Originally Posted by Dingusberry View Post

Hey,

 

what brand give most bang for the buck for cashmere sweaters in small sizes?

I am interested in buying a good cashmere sweater, that would be my first, and I can't afford expensive brands like Brunello Cucinelli and Loro Piana right now.

 

Why, Costco, of course.

 

http://www.costco.com/CatalogSearch?langId=-1&storeId=10301&catalogId=10701&keyword=cashmere121004&sortBy=PriceMax|1

post #51 of 57
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Originally Posted by Dingusberry View Post

Hey,

what brand give most bang for the buck for cashmere sweaters in small sizes?
I am interested in buying a good cashmere sweater, that would be my first, and I can't afford expensive brands like Brunello Cucinelli and Loro Piana right now.

If you're looking for a "cheap" sweater, I'd stick with Merino. In terms of value and quality, decent cashmere starts around $350-$400. I wouldn't mess with anything under that price point, as there are much better options at lower price points.
post #52 of 57
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Originally Posted by bourbonbasted View Post

If you're looking for a "cheap" sweater, I'd stick with Merino. In terms of value and quality, decent cashmere starts around $350-$400. I wouldn't mess with anything under that price point, as there are much better options at lower price points.

Johnston's of Elgin sweaters are always available at Sierra Trading Post for $232, and routinely can be had for about $200 (+/- $10, depending on the particular promotion). Not all sizes and colors all the time, but if you are patient you can get them in most colors. I can't speak to the long-term durability as I only recently got on the "don't buy cheap cashmere" bandwagon, but the brand seems reasonably well-regarded around here, and after 2 months my first J of E sweater is plainly much nicer than the crap I bought previously.
post #53 of 57
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Johnston's of Elgin sweaters are always available at Sierra Trading Post for $232, and routinely can be had for about $200 (+/- $10, depending on the particular promotion). Not all sizes and colors all the time, but if you are patient you can get them in most colors. I can't speak to the long-term durability as I only recently got on the "don't buy cheap cashmere" bandwagon, but the brand seems reasonably well-regarded around here, and after 2 months my first J of E sweater is plainly much nicer than the crap I bought previously.

Have heard good things about Johnston's, though I have no experience. Honestly I wouldn't consider $232 cheap, and if I'm willing to spend around $250 on a sweater, then I'm willing to spend $350-$400. Though that might not be the case for everyone.

Around the $200-$250 price I'd recommend BB Made in Scotland sweaters on sale. They are made with Todd & Duncan fibers, which is the major supplier to famous, high-end Scottish makers like Lockie. And they are frequently on sale for 30-50% off (most recently last week). I will warn, however, it's single ply and therefore better suited for layering.
post #54 of 57

What about Polo Ralph Lauren cashmere sweaters? Many of my friends wear cashmere sweaters from that line, but is it good?

 

There is this site that sells cashmere sweaters from lots of random brands and some famous (like Kiton, Brunello Cucinelli, Loro Piana, John Smedley, Borelli etc.) They also sell cashmere sweaters from Malo for $180 and Trillion Private Label for $270 at discount. Have you heard of the brands?

post #55 of 57
RL cashmere is made in China. The technology gap between European makers and Chinese makers has narrowed in the recent past and there are some good-to-better Chinese makers out there. However, the Chinese houses are infamous for adding synthetic materials or other fibers (like wool) to elongate fibers. The result is often a softer product, due to the cheaper, over-washed materials used; don't think soft cashmere is superior. I generally avoid Chinese fibers as there is no way to know where it was actually made, what QC processes are in place, etc.

I think of knitwear like I think of shoes: I wouldn't buy a "high-end" name just because that brand is known for making nice things. Think of it like buying E Zegna shoes vs. Crockett and Jones. Zegna is a great name and makes tremendous fabrics, but their shoes are crap (pardon Couture/XXX). Again, it's easy to be blinded by a name and a premium. So I generally stay away from the big Italian names when I'm going with knitwear (Kiton, Attolini, Gucci, Brioni, etc). I stick to smaller houses that specialize in, or only make, knitwear.

From the brands you mentioned, I've only owned a couple (Brunello Cucinelli and Loro Piana). Both are very nice, but also incredibly expensive. I've heard great things about John Smedley and Borelli. I've handled Malo on a few different occasions and, while some has been quite nice, I've also seen some single ply offerings that seemed quite lack-luster, considering their price point. I've never heard of "Trillion."

All and all I'd be wary about ordering something like knitwear online without handling it beforehand. Just like a suit or shirt, you really only get a feel of something's quality by handling it. If you're truly on a budget I'd keep any eye out on eBay and thrift stores for older (1960s-1980s) cashmere. That time frame is widely considered the golden age of cashmere and most everything made during those years, when cared for properly, will still look and wear nearly new today. Do some looking through this (and others) thread for some names to keep an eye out for.

Many of the purists will tell you that there are no excellent cashmere makers left. The expensive and difficult process of procuring cashmere properly, coupled with the invasion of bargain cashmere and the disposable nature of today's "designer" offerings, put a lot of the old makers either out of business or has forced them to decrease quality considerably. Pardon a few VERY expensive makers (think Hermès), there aren't many tremendous cashmere options out there.
post #56 of 57
^^Great post.

What about these brands?

Alashan
Forte
IQ
Autumn
Impermeable
post #57 of 57
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Oh, many thanks for the most informational response I've ever received on this forum

This helped me a lot. Now, when my friends tell me that "high-end" brands are superior compared to small houses, I tell them what you wrote.

 

Yeah, I think I am on budget, because I am just 18 and student, and my parents are not that rich, but I have a part time job that gives me a little cash to afford small luxurious things in life. 

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