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post #16 of 20
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A reference to Joris-Karl Huysmans's "Against Nature", which is not what Puritanical parents want their children--teens or otherwise--to read. It was considered the Bible Of Decadence.
hm, i gotta get me one of those. the title is curious though. is it in reference to religion's stance on Nature as Fallen? (for e.g., Genesis sets up the three-part opposition of Man, God, and Nature.) or is it proposing a stance 'against nature'?
post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by faustian bargain
hm, i gotta get me one of those. the title is curious though. is it in reference to religion's stance on Nature as Fallen? (for e.g., Genesis sets up the three-part opposition of Man, God, and Nature.) or is it proposing a stance 'against nature'?
It was really proposing an aesthetic rebellion against Zola's Naturalism, which of course, has ramifications in Biblical terms of "purity" and the natural. Artifice reigns supreme, whether it be sexual or interior design. One notable scheme is when the anti-hero brings a virgin street urchin to a high-end brothel so he could develop an insatiable yearning for prostitutes, and thus would be forced to steal from society in order to sate his habit. It was des Esseintes's way of wounding society.
post #18 of 20
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It was really proposing an aesthetic rebellion against Zola's Naturalism, which of course, has ramifications in Biblical terms of "purity" and the natural. Artifice reigns supreme, whether it be sexual or interior design. One notable scheme is when the anti-hero brings a virgin street urchin to a high-end brothel so he could develop an insatiable yearning for prostitutes, and thus would be forced to steal from society in order to sate his habit. It was des Esseintes's way of wounding society.
it's times like these when i sortof wish i had gone to a liberal arts school.
post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by LabelKing
It was really proposing an aesthetic rebellion against Zola's Naturalism, which of course, has ramifications in Biblical terms of "purity" and the natural. Artifice reigns supreme, whether it be sexual or interior design.

One notable scheme is when the anti-hero brings a virgin street urchin to a high-end brothel so he could develop an insatiable yearning for prostitutes, and thus would be forced to steal from society in order to sate his habit. It was des Esseintes's way of wounding society.

it's times like these when i sortof wish i had gone to a liberal arts school.
This might be my favorite post-couplet ever.

Ivan, regardless of how one feels about teenagers swimming nude, it's really a very different issue from the art question. There are a number of legitimate reasons not to allow nude exercise ("Why?" comes to my mind, unless you're going to be a bit more embracing of the latent homoeroticism in so much athletics.) However, I can't think of one good reason that 5th graders shouldn't be able to go to a damn art museum.
post #20 of 20
I don't know, Ed . . . to me, the issues were linked. I mentioned the naked swimming, which most of the boys did NOT enjoy . . . in part to demonstrate that back where I came from, nude statues didn't get much 'coverage.' We were way beyond that.
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