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post #54331 of 54803
his name is drew keith. do you think he gives two shits about his korean heritage?

also a lot of koreans are shitty people. just like the rest of the world.
post #54332 of 54803
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Originally Posted by masshi View Post

so, as a serious question, what is the realistic end goal here? what exactly are we aiming for?

assuming everything works in our favor and drew is brought to justice or whatever, what will we actually get out of it (other than the satisfaction of having put him in jail or wherever)? is he legally obligated to pay everybody back in full, or is that far too optimistic a thought? would we at least get partial refunds?



(and yeah, while i managed to get the money back on two of my jackets, i still have another full leather's worth in a spot i bought, so i still have skin in this)

 

Best case scenario, IMO. Probably unrealistic. 

 

Is the radio story in Korean? Is there a link? 

 

Should we be duplicating the Libertine strategy? Bomb that chicken joint with shitty reviews, comment on every geotagged post on instagram - tagging his GF and that huff post guy every comment? Might as well make his life difficult, no? 

 

Does his dad know his son stole $800,000? 

post #54333 of 54803
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Is there a link to this? podcast? 

Not that I know of. It was an afternoon radio show; not a podcast.
post #54334 of 54803
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Originally Posted by Mulan View Post
 

Is there a link to this? podcast? 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piKZ0TzoMMI

Korean libel laws make it difficult to post anything particularly juicy. Haven't been able to find a full link to the radio program.
 

post #54335 of 54803
Restaurant looks shabbier than I imagined
post #54336 of 54803
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Originally Posted by TOJWatch View Post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piKZ0TzoMMI


Korean libel laws make it difficult to post anything particularly juicy. Haven't been able to find a full link to the radio program.

Darn, I was hoping for a 60 minutes style confrontation with Drew.
post #54337 of 54803
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Originally Posted by TOJWatch View Post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piKZ0TzoMMI


Korean libel laws make it difficult to post anything particularly juicy. Haven't been able to find a full link to the radio program.

 

Nice find, I hadn't seen that.

The woman they ran into was Joohee, who is Drew's girlfriend. Her saying that Drew is "just an employee" isn't entirely fair. They live together and essentially share assets (practically speaking, even if not legally).
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Restaurant looks shabbier than I imagined

IMO, that's why it's useful to publicize this, so that future investors, business partners, employers, and even employees might think twice about working with Drew. A quick Google search will turn up all sorts of stories about how he ran off with nearly a half million dollars of other people's money. Even if he doesn't care now, and even if it doesn't get us our jackets, it's a small form of justice. And frankly, probably something future investors and business partners might want to know about the guy.
post #54338 of 54803
Here is the link to crowdfund the guys that are hunting down Drew...

https://www.newsbacker.com/projects/chasing-business-person-drew-keith-temple-of-jawnz-owner
post #54339 of 54803
Lol, scam begets scam. Is this a new trend for journalism? "we investigate the tough stories, but only if you pay us"
I'll go eat at his restaurant and maybe Instagram that cute dog for half that money
post #54340 of 54803
Not sure what warrants the derision as you seem to be a reasonable person elsewhere on the forum.

$2,250 (their goal) is a pretty modest sum, especially compared to the amount Drew has stolen. These guys appear to be legit and seem motivated to champion this cause with the support of people who are interested in it. I imagine there are quite a few people who would happily pay some money to see them drive Drew to justice or ride him into the ground.

And yes, crowdfunding journalism is a thing. Especially for smaller outlets covering niche stories. Do you think journalism is not beholden to financial support?

In a situation that has not provided many avenues of recourse for victims, I see this as a viable and potentially promising action.

At the very least, it's gotta be encouraging to see somebody doing something. Why chastise it?
post #54341 of 54803

We could send an envoy to South Korea with that money. Someone with the guts to dispense justice by force.

post #54342 of 54803
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Originally Posted by NaTionS View Post

Restaurant looks shabbier than I imagined

Buildings in Seoul tend to be ugly due to the fast development, doesn't mean much. Did you think he was going to operate a 50,000 meters chicken emporium?
post #54343 of 54803
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Originally Posted by Distorbiant View Post

We could send an envoy to South Korea with that money. Someone with the guts to dispense justice by force.

I'll pay the same sum if someone shuts up distorbiant for good, let's make the pain stop. PM for terms of "removal" contract.
post #54344 of 54803
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Originally Posted by Two Shoes View Post

Not sure what warrants the derision as you seem to be a reasonable person elsewhere on the forum.

$2,250 (their goal) is a pretty modest sum, especially compared to the amount Drew has stolen. These guys appear to be legit and seem motivated to champion this cause with the support of people who are interested in it. I imagine there are quite a few people who would happily pay some money to see them drive Drew to justice or ride him into the ground.

And yes, crowdfunding journalism is a thing. Especially for smaller outlets covering niche stories. Do you think journalism is not beholden to financial support?

In a situation that has not provided many avenues of recourse for victims, I see this as a viable and potentially promising action.

At the very least, it's gotta be encouraging to see somebody doing something. Why chastise it?

+1

I didn't know James was looking to crowdsource the financing for his work, but I agree with everything above. Plus, online crowdsourcing for media seems a lot more honest than the old traditional model (which is to rely on corporate dollars), and the new traditional model (which is to create advertorials). Asking people to pay for stories they want to see created is about as honest as it gets.

Just to be clear, I'm not taking any money from anyone, but I don't begrudge James for trying to raise funds. So long as people know what they're paying for (a story or two posted on the internet), I don't see the problem. FWIW, from my interactions with James, he does seem to be doing legitimate investigative work; not just posting Instagrams at Drew's restaurants. It's been difficult to get anyone else in Korea to do anything, given libel laws.
post #54345 of 54803
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Originally Posted by Two Shoes View Post

Not sure what warrants the derision as you seem to be a reasonable person elsewhere on the forum.

$2,250 (their goal) is a pretty modest sum, especially compared to the amount Drew has stolen. These guys appear to be legit and seem motivated to champion this cause with the support of people who are interested in it. I imagine there are quite a few people who would happily pay some money to see them drive Drew to justice or ride him into the ground.

And yes, crowdfunding journalism is a thing. Especially for smaller outlets covering niche stories. Do you think journalism is not beholden to financial support?

In a situation that has not provided many avenues of recourse for victims, I see this as a viable and potentially promising action.

At the very least, it's gotta be encouraging to see somebody doing something. Why chastise it?

Most of the people who criticize James use to be quite cozy with Drew Keith. Funny enough these people probably have nothing at stake.
Edited by TACO_FLAVORED_KISSES - 12/6/15 at 12:07am
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