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post #3781 of 54803
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Originally Posted by Fluery View Post
Is it feasible to tailor a leather jacket? I have one from toj that I ideally want slimmer in the chest and body, and slightly shorter in the body. I gave measurements slightly too big, and asked for room to layer, which I never do really.
If you wholeheartedly trust someone to do so, sure.

If I were you, I would sell it, take the hit, and order another one that will fit you better.

Shorter in the body may end up looking weird especially if the jacket has pockets in the front.
post #3782 of 54803
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Originally Posted by Uncontrol View Post
nothing's "done" but i'm not letting this go, haha

I expect this jacket to be done by your 10,000th post lol. Consider it your milestone reward from the boys at ToJ haha
post #3783 of 54803
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Originally Posted by Fluery View Post
Is it feasible to tailor a leather jacket? I have one from toj that I ideally want slimmer in the chest and body, and slightly shorter in the body. I gave measurements slightly too big, and asked for room to layer, which I never do really.

I did the same thing, and for over a year I've been wondering about tailoring my MA-1 (too long). Pretty sure I know the answer to that one though. It's taken a while but I'm almost over it
post #3784 of 54803
That is a beautiful jacket and I hate to keep on this shit, but I really really don't get the banded hem. I think it destroys the whole idea of the shirt sticking out the bottom thing and it looks like ass when worn open, it just doesn't hang nicely :/ And I wouldn't bother commenting if I wasn't trying to figure out what kind to get for myself
post #3785 of 54803
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Originally Posted by melonadejello View Post
That is a beautiful jacket and I hate to keep on this shit, but I really really don't get the banded hem. I think it destroys the whole idea of the shirt sticking out the bottom thing and it looks like ass when worn open, it just doesn't hang nicely :/ And I wouldn't bother commenting if I wasn't trying to figure out what kind to get for myself
to be honest i never noticed before, i'm interested to hear what drew thinks about it
post #3786 of 54803
^ Photoshop skillz

I admire people who can tell right away why they like or dislike something, unlike those of us who just like/don't like and can't put their finger on it. I wish I could define my opinions like melonadejello and Drew do so well. Actually, I wish felt that strongly about anything

I'm trying to decide on my first (ever, not just TOJ) leather jacket, full on dad-status here and I'm torn between brown calf bomber or grey lamb collared moto.
(you don't know me, but dress me, internet...)
post #3787 of 54803
Grey collared moto for sure.
post #3788 of 54803
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Originally Posted by Uncontrol View Post
to be honest i never noticed before, i'm interested to hear what drew thinks about it

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I'm sure Drew has reasoning for it, and I'm not sure that simply removing it would fix it, I don't know what would make me like it really, but I am sure that I much preferred the belt loops on the first DR and the curved hem of the 2010 over this one. :dunno: Maybe it's just me
post #3789 of 54803
I think it's the straight hem combined with the band that makes it look off. I think if the band was curved it would be fine.
post #3790 of 54803
I dunno, I've seen a couple Geller leathers with round banded hems and they look like shit. And I am pretty much 100% down with everything else he does.
post #3791 of 54803
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The banded hem, I like. I think the jackets need to be a bit longer than what Charly sizes them at, since Charly works off of a matrix of numbers that I made a couple years ago, that we have used since then to make 'default' fits, plus the sample photos. If you don't know what kind of fit you want, then go with Charly's advice, that is what I pay him for, to go on the chart and pick out numbers that will make a jacket that fits you. If you do know your size, then by all means. It's not very hard to size yourself, nor is a 'perfect fit' one where there is no wrinkling or buckling and the lengths stop abruptly - that kinda stuff actually looks good and takes advantage of the supple material you're paying for. In other words, leather jackets look nice with a bit of 'anti-fit' as denim tends to do as well. I've been thinking that whenever it comes time for me to make my own 2011 DR, which I want, I will get it slightly longer than the sample I showed, and slightly looser in the sides. The banded hem can work short like any other DR, but if you don't understand it (this is what me and AR_Six went back and forth on for maybe over a year - and the update is my conceding a bit), then imagine it falling to where it hits right on and slightly down over the hip bones. If you wear your jeans slouched, have the jacket covering the waistband, and then have twist in the midsection (remember how Funksy's jacket sits on his hips and then twists and breaks in the midsection) - that is how I think the jackets with the banded bottom detail should look. The banded hem is double faced in leather, so it's weighty and actually will sit nice on the hips and wrists, and it will move around nicely as well. These jackets you're seeing are straight out of the packaging they've been in for a week. To put these on and to feel all that leather on your wrist and hips, it's very cozy and quality feeling. That was a pretty common comment amongst all of us when we made the first sample and tried it out. If you have ever tried on one of the nicer Julius leathers, especially one of those rider's from 2006, they have a similar feeling, where there's a lot of thick supple sheepskin on your wrists and midsection, holding you. It's very glovelike.
post #3792 of 54803
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Originally Posted by Synthese View Post
whoa. the ramifications of that jacket in the sand/whitish color just hit me.

If I had beautiful sandy blonde hair, and a pastel wardrobe like you, then there'd be nothing better than a sand DR...
post #3793 of 54803
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I think the jackets need to be a bit longer than what Charly sizes them at,
that's the sound of a thousand hearts stopping in unison
post #3794 of 54803
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Originally Posted by impolyt_one View Post
imagine it falling to where it hits right on and slightly down over the hip bones. If you wear your jeans slouched, have the jacket covering the waistband, and then have twist in the midsection (remember how Funksy's jacket sits on his hips and then twists and breaks in the midsection) - that is how I think the jackets with the banded bottom detail should look.
Haha thanks for that insight Drew. Where does the shirt fit in that equation? Sorry I am just having a lot of trouble picturing. I will say echau's fit does look pretty nice, the zipped pictures at least. But in that case if your shirt is longer than the jacket it just flares out from beneath the hem in an ugly way instead of hanging nicely along with it I think my problem mainly is just in imagining a jacket for myself. The banded hem just looks too "sporty" I think, and structured for my liking.
post #3795 of 54803
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Originally Posted by Uncontrol View Post
that's the sound of a thousand hearts stopping in unison

haha, well, there are personal tastes and everybody needs to like their own jacket and realize there is no perfect fit in the zen of leather jackets. There are just neighborhoods of sizing to be in, and everybody is always in that range by default with these jackets, no matter who sizes them - the idea is to get as close to a good fit as reasonably possible, for dudes on the internet sizing themselves up for a leather jacket can do.
Anyway, that is the nature of the chart that has always been there, since August or September of 2010 (I think I made the baseline sizes and aqhong actually filled the chart in, way back then) - each increment is not much, nor are they all that important that you need to mix n match, etc.
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