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post #451 of 42607
I think anyone who's tried to get MTM anything in Asia knows there's a lot more work than just finding some dude that makes shit and telling him some numbers.
post #452 of 42607
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Me and dizz visited the bag guy today, we are working on some projects. Hopefully they turn out as nicely as I expect them to. They will be solid. I haven't even decided on half of the details yet myself, so don't ask me yet. :P
I have tried to get someone to produce a bag for me, for 6 months now, but most manufactures want 20 designs or some shit, to start up production.
post #453 of 42607
Any chance of getting a hint on when we'll get the first peek on the 2011 styles?
post #454 of 42607
Any guess on for how much longer the current DR will be offered?
post #455 of 42607
fishtails need to go out before i freeze my nuts off
post #456 of 42607
im on the lookout for a used dr, anyone know what size would be good for me? i'm 5'8" 140.
post #457 of 42607
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fishtails need to go out before i freeze my nuts off

6 degrees tonight
post #458 of 42607
^ -25C here, can't wait for it to arrive!
post #459 of 42607
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fishtails need to go out before i freeze my nuts off

yeahhh
post #460 of 42607
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fishtails need to go out before i freeze my nuts off

+1
post #461 of 42607
I will admit to not reading all of last year's thread, so excuse me if this was covered previously... Would the height of the armholes on TOJ jackets (the peacoat in particular) be worthy of discussion? The fits that I have seen look very good to me in some cases; particularly the one in peacoat image 46 on pixi:

https://toj.pixi.me/v/peacoat/raulishere2.jpg.html

Among the TOJ owners here, how difficult do you find it to raise your arms farther than is pictured above (shoulder height) without the chest riding up? I understand that these jackets are MTM to a certain extent, but is the size of the armscye one of the options open to us, or is Drew's pattern sufficiently slim enough to avoid this problem that plagues mass-market brands because he deals with the mostly thin or otherwise fit clientele here on SF and sufu?

I also understand that this is mostly causal wear and it's success is not as dependent on fit as, say, a suit jacket. That said, I have a peacoat that I absolutely hate because the armholes are like 11 inches long and it looks like shit whenever I actually do anything other than stand with my arms to the side.

Thanks.
post #462 of 42607
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Not sure what to make of ngokhikho's comment, but if it's a dig that the prices or 'quality' are not lining up, well, I guess you know better than me. In reality though, the materials are getting better, the detailing is getting better, and the quality of the make is getting better with each subsequent model, because knowledge carries over easily. An example would be the windstopper technical interface liner with fused tape that we started using, beginning with the fishtail. I didn't really know how to go about making technical wear before, but I have a pretty good idea for the future now. I don't know when the skills will start to plateau, but I have the feeling I'm still very far away from that, while making some very impressive things right now. About myself, that's a good feeling to have about your work. There is an art to creating a finished product that lives up to expectations. It's very much like cooking, and operating a restaurant, which is why I use that analogy all the time. In terms of complexity, I started off with a fun metaphorical taco truck just selling the one thing, it got too big for being a truck, so it turned into a restaurant with a few more items, and then later on the menu expanded again and so did the house... and to keep putting each new item on the menu, I've got to make sure it's good and works. I wouldn't put it on the menu otherwise, and a good restaurateur would feel the same. Anyway, there's a lot more to making things than what most people latch onto, obviously. There's tons of in-between stuff that makes it a practical art. I should make this an FAQ, but I won't at this time, but I know a lot of people on this forum like to talk about quality, zippers (does anyone really know anything about zippers? People constantly talk about them as if they are zipper specialists), country of manufacture, a lot of things, but this is a fruitless conversation with no real facts that ever follow, and some tooting of horns in between.
post #463 of 42607
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Originally Posted by Hataraki_man View Post
I will admit to not reading all of last year's thread, so excuse me if this was covered previously... Would the height of the armholes on TOJ jackets (the peacoat in particular) be worthy of discussion? The fits that I have seen look very good to me in some cases; particularly the one in peacoat image 46 on pixi:

https://toj.pixi.me/v/peacoat/raulishere2.jpg.html

Among the TOJ owners here, how difficult do you find it to raise your arms farther than is pictured above (shoulder height) without the chest riding up? I understand that these jackets are MTM to a certain extent, but is the size of the armscye one of the options open to us, or is Drew's pattern sufficiently slim enough to avoid this problem that plagues mass-market brands because he deals with the mostly thin or otherwise fit clientele here on SF and sufu?

I also understand that this is mostly causal wear and it's success is not as dependent on fit as, say, a suit jacket. That said, I have a peacoat that I absolutely hate because the armholes are like 11 inches long and it looks like shit whenever I actually do anything other than stand with my arms to the side.

Thanks.

It's very simple; mobility is a direct result of arm scye height and width, and well, if you want a slim fit, you will give up mobility. That is true of my clothes and any other. I could incorporate things like slits and gussets in the pit area, but those are rather inelegant. For the time that we are mortals, we will just have to unbutton our jackets if we want high armholes and plan to reach for high shelves.

If people don't understand that idea, then size up.
post #464 of 42607
Hmm. Yes, I understand quite well that slim anything is going to restrict mobility. Actually, the notion I was going for was that high armholes are good and provide mobility. Meaning that the bottom of the sleeve opening in the body of the jacket is relativley high and allows the sleeve to move upward to a relatively higher degree before the arm starts to pull the body of the jacket upwards with the arm. To illustrate the effect of low armholes imagine you were wearing a perfectly cut bespoke suit and then proceeded to staple the bottom of the arm to the side of the suit body 1 or 2 inches below the armpit, then tried to move your arms. Apparently many manufacturers cut jackets with low-hanging armholes in order to accomodate the largest prospective customer of a RTW line. Their logic being, "the small man won't notice that the armhole is so low until he raises his arms, but the large man would immediately notice uncomfortable tightness in the armpit if it were too high and not buy the jacket." I was inquiring as to where you or the public thinks TOJ products generally line up in the spectrum of armhole height. Thanks. edit: observe this poor chap, lol. Kind of looks like my peacoat, but more extreme. http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...armholes-1.jpg vs. http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...armholes-1.jpg
post #465 of 42607
I have no problem raising my arm to hold on to the bars on the subway in my ToJ jackets.
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