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No disrespect intended, but I have a logistical question -- Distorbiant, how are you able to be on this thread so much?

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Originally Posted by reedobandito View Post

Honestly though, sleeve width is something to be picky about, at least for me. If a sleeve can't at least be closed to be a snug/tapered fit, especially for something like a slim fitting leather jacket, I think it looks pretty goofy. sleeves that "open up" like bell bottoms really drive me crazy, not to mention they constantly bounce against my wrists

The bell sleeve is kinda part of the Toj design, Drew's talked about it pretty extensively. Although it's largely an optical illusion.
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the sleeve end flare is not in the pattern, it's tapered from elbow to the wrist; what causes that (and it's beautiful, btw, it might take some time to get used to if you see it, but it's definitely supposed to be like that) is because the zipper on the back portion has some flatness to it because of all the stitching and stuff; it makes the sleeve end opening kind of round but flat-bottomed, and the sleeve flattens out on the hand a bit too. A little bit of shape, a little bit of extra fabric here and there, that is what makes things beautiful. Look at Brian's back fit and see how the jacket unzipped causes the sides to move fabric to the back and hang it off the lower back a little, that is one of my favorite things about short leather jackets in general. The silhouette is great.

Regardless, you can adjust the sleeve size, but adjusting the cuff size independently of that seems like a recipe for disaster.
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 the sleeve end flare is not in the pattern, it's tapered from elbow to the wrist; what causes that (and it's beautiful, btw, it might take some time to get used to if you see it, but it's definitely supposed to be like that) is because the zipper on the back portion has some flatness to it because of all the stitching and stuff; it makes the sleeve end opening kind of round but flat-bottomed, and the sleeve flattens out on the hand a bit too. A little bit of shape, a little bit of extra fabric here and there, that is what makes things beautiful. Look at Brian's back fit and see how the jacket unzipped causes the sides to move fabric to the back and hang it off the lower back a little, that is one of my favorite things about short leather jackets in general. The silhouette is great.
Regardless, you can adjust the sleeve size, but adjusting the cuff size independently of that seems like a recipe for disaster.

I was curious to see what Drew was talking about here. The pictures no longer exist in the old thread, but I believe this picture from the gallery is the right one, if anyone else was wondering.

 

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The thing with DR cuff sizing is that even if you did screw it up and opted for a slightly too tight cuff opening, you can just unzip the cuffs a little and it would probably look okay. If you want a slim sleeve opening then I recommend that you use some common sense and give some thought for it and alter the suggested measurement if needed. I wish I had done so with my MDR but at the same time I feel that the wide cuff opening probably is pretty proportionate with my other sleeve measurements.

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Originally Posted by brad-t View Post

The bell sleeve is kinda part of the Toj design, Drew's talked about it pretty extensively. Although it's largely an optical illusion.

I prefer to have a slim cuff with an option to create the "bell" effect by unzipping it a little. In fact, I leave mine partially unzipped because it looks better, but having the bell from the start makes the cuff zippers even more useless.
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Originally Posted by fallenwest View Post

I was curious to see what Drew was talking about here. The pictures no longer exist in the old thread, but I believe this picture from the gallery is the right one, if anyone else was wondering. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


This is one of the best photos of back drape I've seen. Reminiscent of a cape almost.
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so whats wrong with the bell sleeve?
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Nothing's wrong with it, aesthetically, some people just don't like it.

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Originally Posted by VLSI View Post

I prefer to have a slim cuff with an option to create the "bell" effect by unzipping it a little. In fact, I leave mine partially unzipped because it looks better, but having the bell from the start makes the cuff zippers even more useless.

Fair enough! I don't really feel the jacket sleeves should be zipped up, typically.
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Right, have the option to unzip and create the bell effect is fine and I do that sometimes, but only have the option of a bell sleeve and an even bigger bell sleeve is silly
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Hi guys, i was wondering. I got caught in the rain for a bit with my TOJ MA-1 suiting wool. It kinda lost it's puffiness, probably due to the cotton inside getting wet and shrinking. Anything i can do to make it puffy again? I've just been opening the windows and letting it air out for now.

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Probably just hang dry then manually puff it up a bit.

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Originally Posted by reedobandito View Post

Right, have the option to unzip and create the bell effect is fine and I do that sometimes, but only have the option of a bell sleeve and an even bigger bell sleeve is silly

I think if the bell shape is happening when the cuff is fully zipped, there is something wrong with the measurement.
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Originally Posted by brad-t View Post

Fair enough! I don't really feel the jacket sleeves should be zipped up, typically.

I wear the jacket both ways, but mostly mine are zipped. Never had an issue with the bell effect but my moto jacket before had the bell effect as well so I am used to it.
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Originally Posted by sanshiki View Post

Hi guys, i was wondering. I got caught in the rain for a bit with my TOJ MA-1 suiting wool. It kinda lost it's puffiness, probably due to the cotton inside getting wet and shrinking. Anything i can do to make it puffy again? I've just been opening the windows and letting it air out for now.

I have the ma-1 as well and it doesn't absorb that much, maybe try and use a blow dryer from a small distance
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