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post #36601 of 45035
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Originally Posted by brad-t View Post

you're complaining about the lead time that you were never given, just assumed. OK
I saw people on here receiving them in about 15-20 weeks. Website said 16. Drew said orders actually slowed down. Was expecting 14 weeks or so setting the bar too high? Should I have bothered charly with questions about my lead time when he made it clear he hates those types of emails? So if I ask for a lead time it's bad. If I use deductive reasoning to estimate a lead time is bad?
post #36602 of 45035
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Originally Posted by Distorbiant View Post

MauriSSio, just slow down and think about this for a second. 

Let's say the TOJ team puts out a set number of jackets per week at a consistent level of productivity.

The team got a huge rush of orders when TOJ announced it was closing, resulting in these long lead times. But even after that, orders continued to come in.


They continue to work at that consistent level, slowly dwindling down the queue.

Why on god's earth do you think that the wait time would speed up for those at the end of the line? Why would someone who ordered in december get their jacket at the same time as someone who ordered a month prior? Do you expect Charlie to fly down to south korea and cut and sew your jacket himself? 

You seem to be under the bizarre impression that productivity will speed up for those last in line, for some reason.
after the rush there was a huge slow down. After all these backed up orders get finished, the remaining ones shouldn't take as long because there are less to do. As was stated in a previous post, it follows a bell curve. Not sure why it's so hard for you to grasp.
post #36603 of 45035

Yes, there was a huge slow down in orders placed. That doesn't mean the jacket creation slows down or speeds up.

 

ALL of the orders are "backed up orders to be finished."

 

Please link me a post by drew or charly stating that there's a "bell curve" to their production.

 

I just can't fathom how you're logically processing all of this. 

post #36604 of 45035

I have 3 jackets in queue that I ordered late june & early july, hope to receive them in a next month or so. And If not, well the wait time really is still not "that bad". For instance Good Wear Leather has a lead time of ~ 12 - 15 months for their jackets and I'd be more than ready to wait equally for a TOJ FQHH or calf bomber if it only was still possible to order TOJ bombers in calf or FQHH. Anyway, I get the anxiety and frustration especially if you are waiting for your first jacket. 

 

@eglbc I haven't seen a women's size chart either, but even if such exists, I'd still suggest you'll take the measurements of her body and give them to Charly. My GF has black lamb GF DR already + Women's diesel blue heavy calf Channel Quilt BCDR in queue. Charly really knows how to translate the provided body measurements into a women's jacket. If I remember right, I only asked slightly smaller cuff for her and other than that we went with the measurements Charly suggested and the GF DR turned out well and so should the BCDR.


Edited by Joona - 12/30/13 at 1:01pm
post #36605 of 45035
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Originally Posted by Distorbiant View Post

Yes, there was a huge slow down in orders placed. That doesn't mean the jacket creation slows down or speeds up.

ALL of the orders are "backed up orders to be finished."

Please link me a post by drew or charly stating that there's a "bell curve" to their production.

I just can't fathom how you're logically processing all of this. 
I never said their production follows a bell curve, but the ordering of the jackets do follow a bell curve. There was an influx of orders and then a huge decline or slow down. The later orders shouldn't take as long as the earlier ones.
post #36606 of 45035
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Originally Posted by MauriSSio View Post


I never said their production follows a bell curve, but the ordering of the jackets do follow a bell curve. There was an influx of orders and then a huge decline or slow down. The later orders shouldn't take as long as the earlier ones.

 

 

:foo:

 


I give up. 

post #36607 of 45035
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Originally Posted by MauriSSio View Post

I never said their production follows a bell curve, but the ordering of the jackets do follow a bell curve. There was an influx of orders and then a huge decline or slow down. The later orders shouldn't take as long as the earlier ones.
Your assumption would only be accurate if they already went through the big influx of orders. Based on turn times increasing, that simply doesn't look to be the case.
post #36608 of 45035
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Originally Posted by DarkDestiny View Post

Your assumption would only be accurate if they already went through the big influx of orders. Based on turn times increasing, that simply doesn't look to be the case.
I wasn't saying they already went through the big influx or certainly wouldn't know that as fact but I sure hope they have or I hope they're near the end of it.
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Can anyone bring me up to speed on the "Adjustable lengths only" for a lambskin MA-1? Based off stock sizing, what measurements are getting adjusted?

Last order I did was a winter varsity, and I dont think that was the case.
post #36610 of 45035
The Lambskin MA-1 is a leather piece so you have complete customization on sizing. But I'm sure you could use the stock sizing they offer for the jackets as well.
Edited by PDinh - 12/30/13 at 3:40pm
post #36611 of 45035
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Originally Posted by eglbc View Post

Can anyone bring me up to speed on the "Adjustable lengths only" for a lambskin MA-1? Based off stock sizing, what measurements are getting adjusted?

Last order I did was a winter varsity, and I dont think that was the case.

 


The Lambskin MA-1 is a full MTM leather.

 

Varsity and Wool MA-1 are adjustable lengths only for sleeves and body. 

post #36612 of 45035
Ah makes sense, thank you.
post #36613 of 45035
Can we just block and move on?
post #36614 of 45035
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Originally Posted by uNiCoRnPriNcEsSx View Post

Can we just block and move on?

 

YOU'RE SUCH A FAN BOY UNICORNPRINCESSX

post #36615 of 45035
Ordering a suiting ma-1, have most people been sizing up? Perusing the thread, looks like most people have had issues with it being too tight. I'm about a size 40, so looking at a size 52 with 46/48 lengths.
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