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What about the front quarter horse hide? It is definitely heavier than either the lamb or the goat and it is supposedly more abrasion resistant than calf with a coarser grain, but it has greater variation and may not be as heavy as the calf. Horsehide might be your tougher 24-25 oz.


FQHH is no longer available.

 

 

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Originally Posted by pl0nky View Post

Hmm I'm thinking I'm gonna go for lamb qdr? I mean its not like its gonna rip. Its just not as strong as calf. I do really like the idea of how strong the calf is though. Ahh decisions. I also want this to last as long as possible. Anyone with experience with calf and lamb want to comment about the breaking in process and such?
 
Look up UnicornPrincessX and omgcookielol's DR 2010 pics if you want to see how lamb ages.
 
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In the same way that a varsity has sleeves made of the same lamb as all of the other leather jackets, and is made by the same people sometimes, yet the varsity gets outgunned by the leather jackets by like 50 to 1 seemingly, the MDR and QDR are very close... yet so far apart. It's just one of those really good recipes that comes together to make a really impressive piece. The MDR is no slouch obviously, but the QDR has just the right bit of everything, makes it seem like it's on a totally different level than the MDR. I've been charging the same price for both, probably shouldn't have...
(Drew also noted that the jacket is best suited for skinny guys. After browsing the gallery I am inclined to agree.)
 
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Alright I srsly tried to search the thread and gallery but came up with nothing. Are there any pics of the Chestnut lamb suede? Trying to figure out what it'd look like for a BCDR
 
IIRC that color is a recent addition so nobody has posted pics yet.  Kind of like the obscure tan lamb option. 
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IIRC that color is a recent addition so nobody has posted pics yet.  Kind of like the obscure tan lamb option. 

 

So my forthcoming order continues to waver between "bright whiskey" and "toffee tan." I asked Charly just how orange the former is; he said it's "a bit orange." Really inclined to go with toffee tan now. 

 

Why don't I let the wisdom of SF guide me? I wear plenty of navy, dark-wash jeans, burgundy, and tan/brown shoes. What would go well? Is the bright whiskey too orange? 

 

If it matters I'm in New England, a grad student, and would like to keep things on the conservative side. There's always the safe and boring "brown" option, but meh...

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Originally Posted by pl0nky View Post

Hmm I'm thinking I'm gonna go for lamb qdr? I mean its not like its gonna rip. Its just not as strong as calf. I do really like the idea of how strong the calf is though. Ahh decisions. I also want this to last as long as possible. Anyone with experience with calf and lamb want to comment about the breaking in process and such?

I have seen 3 jackets in lamb and 2 jackets in calf between me and my brothers, so I feel I can comment. Admittedly, the calf is thicker, heavier, and tougher than the lamb. The lamb is quite nice, but it should not deter you from getting the calf. They both break in just fine and wear just fine. Out of all the jackets I have seen, my olive calf CM is overall my favorite jacket. The olive calf is just particularly nice. I have never had either leather rip, but the lamb does tend to get "dinged" up easier.

If you want calf, you shouldn't hesitate to try it.
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So my forthcoming order continues to waver between "bright whiskey" and "toffee tan." I asked Charly just how orange the former is; he said it's "a bit orange." Really inclined to go with toffee tan now.

Why don't I let the wisdom of SF guide me? I wear plenty of navy, dark-wash jeans, burgundy, and tan/brown shoes. What would go well? Is the bright whiskey too orange?

If it matters I'm in New England, a grad student, and would like to keep things on the conservative side. There's always the safe and boring "brown" option, but meh...

If you are trying for a more conservative route, I'd go toffee tan.
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I have seen 3 jackets in lamb and 2 jackets in calf between me and my brothers, so I feel I can comment. Admittedly, the calf is thicker, heavier, and tougher than the lamb. The lamb is quite nice, but it should not deter you from getting the calf. They both break in just fine and wear just fine. Out of all the jackets I have seen, my olive calf CM is overall my favorite jacket. The olive calf is just particularly nice. I have never had either leather rip, but the lamb does tend to get "dinged" up easier.

If you want calf, you shouldn't hesitate to try it.
If you are trying for a more conservative route, I'd go toffee tan.

 

Done. I looked up some pictures of whiskey on other makeups. It's hard to really figure it out, but the risk does not seem worth it. I might end up with a rather garish yet beautiful jacket and regret it once TOJ stops taking orders.

 

I'm also concerned about *this* general vibe I'm picking up about lambskin:

 

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 Lamb, IMHO, is basically disposable. You get it, wear it for a couple of seasons, it starts showing wear, developes holes and not character, and its time to buy a new one. Horse, goat, steer you keep for a lifetime.

 

Disposable?! It isn't that the price is too much (not at all), but I'd really like the jacket to last longer than "a few years." Anyone with experience with goat MDRs?

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Lambskin is not disposable, WTF. It will get scuffed in some spots but it's not like it's going to disintegrate.
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Seriously, if you rotate jackets (which you should be doing), lamb is and drapes the best.

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Thanks, guys. Clearly I'm new to leathers in general, so I really appreciate the guidance. Will go with lamb for sure, toffee tan. 

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Originally Posted by click here View Post

Is there a way of reducing the bagginess at the back? Should I take it to the tailor? Or leave as is?

I think it's because the jacket is too short, it's causing some of the excess leather to bunch up.

The elastic band will loose a bit as Newo has indicated and that should mitigate some of the bunching, but I think it's a tad short.
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I don't have a ToJ yet, but I'm pretty sure all the leathers I do have are lambskin.  They break in beautifully.  They do not fall apart.  My favorite leather is a black lambskin that I've worn a ton for 3 years now.  It gets better every year.

 

*This is assuming, of course, that the lamb leather is of high quality.*

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Originally Posted by Potsnu View Post

I think it's because the jacket is too short, it's causing some of the excess leather to bunch up.

The elastic band will loose a bit as Newo has indicated and that should mitigate some of the bunching, but I think it's a tad short.

It's not because it's too short at all. The bottom is too pinched. It's also quite possible that the bottom band of leather is simply too small to fit over his hips+jeans+belt, and no amount of elastic stretching will fix that.
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Originally Posted by Raindrop View Post

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Seriously, if you rotate jackets (which you should be doing), lamb is and drapes the best.

i understand shoes, but what's the reasoning behind rotating jackets?
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Originally Posted by Death24xASecond View Post
 

Thanks, guys. Clearly I'm new to leathers in general, so I really appreciate the guidance. Will go with lamb for sure, toffee tan. 

I think I'm going with lamb as well. Its going to do what I need and more! Black lamb QDR with silver zips it is! Now to get measurements. Do you guys think mens warehouse or a tailor will measure me if I ask them to? lol

 

Edit: I can choose to get bemberg lining right? jw


Edited by pl0nky - 12/12/13 at 10:47am
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Originally Posted by rockket View Post


i understand shoes, but what's the reasoning behind rotating jackets?

 

I feel like garments last longer compared to their usual life if you stagger the cumulative wear and tear compared to straight wearing it everyday. Sweat and oil accumulate in jackets too. 

 

Of course..if you're going to wear something like a horsehide jacket, wearing it everyday would speed up the break in process. Depends on what you want.

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p.s. whoever has sherwood suede stuff, go ahead and get a pair of the SF MTO Vibergs in loden green.
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Which one do you prefer? 4 zip MDR or 2010 DR? Is the 4-zip MDR still available?
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