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post #31846 of 44236
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Originally Posted by flahertongs View Post

What, you don't think I averaged them for the measurements I sent to Charly? I'm not an idiot. I just wanted a second opinion from someone here who is about my build and also owns a TOJ, to put my mind at rest. Some of you guys are acting like I just committed some kind of heinous offence. What the hell is wrong with asking the community here for a second opinion on measurements?

 

I'm sorry if my post was taken seriously; it was intended to be a joke about only learning how to use Excel in college and applying it to Jawnz. Here is a serious response:

 

I understand your apprehension, especially if you're a first time buyer. I was nervous too when I first purchased my jacket. But I think you may have complicated your situation by going to 6 different people -- sometimes ignorance is bliss, and you have to have faith in the Temple. I had a girl in my lab help measure me. Did it three different times, then averaged those values, and they were all within +/- 0.1-0.2 in. I also measured myself, and as Gauss said, in any case that there was a discrepancy, I went with the larger value. Then it comes to the age old adage of "trust Charly." I think if you fully explain your desire for the jacket, and give measurements, he will provide you the best. The service Charly provides is amazing: in this last BCDR order I had, we agreed on measurements and I paid, but he followed up and asked for another jacket measurement -- he ended up modifying the length of my jacket because he had a hunch that it might end up being too long. This was after we had agreed on measurements, and I had sent payment. Charly isn't messing around -- he's aiming to give you the best. But at the end of the day, you just have to -- as cliche as it is -- take a leap of faith and just trust that your best judgment on measurements was made, and have faith that Charly will be baller, as he has been.

 

To address your, "this forum is full of dicks who aren't willing to help out," I don't think you help yourself by essentially berating the thread with, "F YOU GUYS! YOU GUYS AREN'T SUPPORTIVE! THIS IS MY FIRST TIME! I'M WORRIED HELP ME OUT! F YOU ALL!" While this thread is full of sass (I'm looking at you nahneun), in my experience, if you aren't just a troll (Distorbant), or are being stupid, people are extremely helpful. I've pm'd multiple people in this thread, and their advice is great, and in general they've been helpful advisors in more things than just TOJ. But I'm sure they wouldn't have been as inclined to help, had I been like "YOU ARE ALL UNHELPFUL! I'M A FIRST TIMER! F YOU! ... oh hey, cyc wid it, will you answer some questions for me?" 

 

This is like The Sandlot, and you're Smalls. You have to earn the respect of the group before you get to play ball. I feel like this applies to any group dynamic in life in general. Trust me, I've only been here a year, so I'm even hesitant to be preachy like this.

 

TL;DR: Simplify your measurements strategy; have faith in Charly. Know your place, be respectful, the TOJ community wants to see sick jackets with sick fits.


Edited by B0Bs4g3t - 6/21/13 at 8:15am
post #31847 of 44236
i just get annoyed with the clusterfuck of tracking updates and first time buyer posts that make it difficult to sift out any relevant information... which simply leads to more "trust charly" posts and the usual one or two dissenters. it's happened every time there was a significant event at toj. people fucking need to learn to use their own brains instead of expecting the internet to make all their decisions for them. using a tape measure isn't rocket science, nor is finding a tailor to do it for you if you're too nervous to do it yourself.
post #31848 of 44236

Here's the troof.  Charly will get you 90% there, which should be good enough for any jacket.  

 

One reason MTM got to go.  It's not necessary and it pushes people to expect 100% perfection and there is no such thing.

post #31849 of 44236
Whoa, newb upheaval. We're assholes because it keeps the signal to noise ratio high.

Shoulder to shoulder isn't that hard, unless you can't read English.

Shoulders - measure across the front. The points to which you measure should be right on top of the shoulder, and slightly forward of the center point - basically at the joint but on the front side.

Drew even put naked peechurs for reference.
post #31850 of 44236
seriously. how much hand holding do you kids need? and when all else fails...





LMGTFY, NOOB
post #31851 of 44236
Anyone get their tracking number for toj0 and backpack?
post #31852 of 44236
Not yet... The day is still young? shog[1].gif
post #31853 of 44236
(not in korea)
post #31854 of 44236
Black or brown A2?
post #31855 of 44236
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Originally Posted by nahneun View Post

(not in korea)

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post #31856 of 44236
Ordered BCDR! Thanks Charly. And Drew, this is my tip of the hat to your ambitions.
post #31857 of 44236
It was much easier the second time...

Just continued my old email thread, included some pictures of the original jacket and said, this is what went into that jacket and here is how it fits, now how do we make it work for an A2?

I think I sent a total of 4 emails. One as a feeler making sure I could order what I wanted, one with pictures and details, one to confirm a couple options, and one to confirm sending a payment.

Much less than the 11 I sent the first time.
post #31858 of 44236
Sent 4 first time, almost dozen this time... shog[1].gif It just sucks when your measurement is not consistent with sizing chart.
post #31859 of 44236

Just sent payment for my first ToJ's!

 

MDR Calf Dark Blue

DR 2010 Lamb Black

 

Silver gearing

 

I have a Tommy Hilfiger leather jacket that I pinned/folded to the specs Charly suggested, and it look/felt great!  I also compared the sizing to what I have as a blazer measurement on moderntailor.com to make sure the dimensions aren't too tight(found out the specs charly suggested are a tad larger than the ones I use for MTM blazers).  

 

Now I'm thinking about picking up another MDR in a red or brown...

Maybe an CWU in brown

 

I hope they go on for another 2 weeks!

post #31860 of 44236
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Originally Posted by Mark9fiji View Post

Just sent payment for my first ToJ's!

 

MDR Calf Dark Blue

DR 2010 Lamb Black

 

Silver gearing

 

I have a Tommy Hilfiger leather jacket that I pinned/folded to the specs Charly suggested, and it look/felt great!  I also compared the sizing to what I have as a blazer measurement on moderntailor.com to make sure the dimensions aren't too tight(found out the specs charly suggested are a tad larger than the ones I use for MTM blazers).  

 

Now I'm thinking about picking up another MDR in a red or brown...

Maybe an CWU in brown

 

I hope they go on for another 2 weeks!

 

Good choices...go A2 brown. CWU should be black.

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