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still want to see the shearling coat so damn badly
post #27887 of 42670
fingers crossed this is the week i get tracking..
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Got my TOJ1 today. Love the fit though it may be a bit on the tight side. Thanks to the TOJ team for a great fit and a smooth experience.

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fingers crossed this is the week i get tracking..

when/what did you order
post #27890 of 42670
yeah was that just a joke, the shearling tease? i'd probably be willing to drop up to 1200-1500 on a nicely styled one from toj, it's something i've always wanted. i have this vision in my mind of what it should look like, but can't find a good one from any brand
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It was a tester. Shearling is prohibitively expensive. Probably significantly more than what you are willing to spend.
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Might be a stupid question, but what exactly is shearling (leather with the wool still on it?) and why is it so expensive?

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Might be a stupid question, but what exactly is shearling (leather with the wool still on it?) and why is it so expensive?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shearling
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Is toj planning on doing backpacks again?
 

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Not really..

edit: i meant to reply to cyc wid it's comment shog[1].gif
Edited by ceoceo - 2/25/13 at 7:38pm
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I have designs to make a backpack design.... but slightly cleaner and more modern than that; wool and leather in the TOJ Daypack form factor, just different material choices...

they are

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Not really..

edit: i meant to reply to cyc wid it's comment shog[1].gif

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I don't want to get into the business of making $3000+ clothes. I could make them rise to that level, but I just don't like the idea of working with such expensive material. Leather is pretty expensive as it is. The other thing that has me uninterested is the sizing - I recall a thread of some guy who'd bought a shearling jacket from the mall and wondered why it didn't fit tightly or something... that doesn't seem like it'd be much fun....

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I'm not sure, I've seen other shearling leather hides there but the backside finish (the 'leather') left a lot to be desired... and that's the part I like.

A real-deal shearling jacket is the same animal, inside and out; it's one piece of leather hide-out and hair-in. That is a sign of quality if both sides are nice - the hides for that are quite expensive, as said. Well over a hundred dollars a piece for me, and you need at least 6 to make the basic panels of a jacket - that doesn't include the trim leather, or other parts.

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So in consideration of that huge paragraph above, I would be most inclined to 'TOJ' a B-15/RAF style jacket... which is the same direction a lot of other brands have chosen to go in; problem being - they're using that poly flock backing with cheap leather on front, they're using cheap shearling, or something on that level to make their shearlings, and they get to come in under $2K. The point I always wanted to make was that TOJ can make something interesting with some definite virtues for less than the mainstream cost, while giving more - and that just can't happen with real shearling. Fake shearling, yes, I could make those all day and they'd not be expensive, they'd look alright from 10 foot away... but I shudder at the idea of putting polyester fake flocking inside such nice leather. That just doesn't do it for me, it'd be cheese, and incongruent with the way every TOJ previous has been made.

Anyway, yada, yada, yada, yada - I view it as an impossibility.

This was said in 2011/2012 or something. Shearling prices have probably risen. I remember him saying recently that he was now open to the idea of making clothes that only a few of his customers could afford, or whatever. Given that he has stuck to his guns about delivering a product he believes is next level, I dont see him using cheaper shearling than what he described in the above posts.
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on hold for a bit. Way too expensive to make. That BCDR is ready to sell, shearling is not.
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I figured double that guy's budget constituted "significantly more than you are willing to spend". If Nigel Cabourn shearlings on clearance are $2k, that should give you an idea of how much it will cost.
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I figured double that guy's budget constituted "significantly more than you are willing to spend". If Nigel Cabourn shearlings on clearance are $2k, that should give you an idea of how much it will cost.
I agree with you, but I dont think that you should use other brands to make an estimate of what a TOJ should cost - that's how Woodyears are born.
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Fair enough. Also, Willy is so happy that he didn't have to search again.
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