The new official TOJ thread, 2011 - Page 1813

fuark. What does everyone think of the burgundy leather: A2 Bomber or Collared Moto?

There's a standing queue for jackets, and people already expect to wait around 2 months before they receive a shipping notice. You want to throw a substantial amount of MTO orders at the queue all at the same time, when a little more than a single jacket is completed by each sewer a day. Two months later, you have people flooding the thread wondering why they haven't received a tracking number for their group buy. A sudden surge in orders probably isn't going to entice the guys at ToJ - it honestly seems more disruptive than anything else, especially since everyone was given fair notice about the discontinued models.

You make a good point omgcookielol. I don't know much about the lore behind TOJ; I just wanted a jacket. People can put away their leather suits and ball gags now. 

TOJ makes leather suits too? Does it come in burgundy calf? Should i get a collar or lapels on my leather suit? Are the ball gags detachable? Cheers!

What is the size chart for the ma-1?
 

It's not out yet.

FIFY

It would be convinient, if Charly started telling people what waiting time they could expect when ordering. People not following this thread probably don't expect the kind of lead times TOJ has had since the relaunch. Just a thought

 

I just ask everytime I place an order -- he gives that info right away. Fishtail parka, beginning of January -- 10 weeks.

I think he might be asking for a more realistic figure. My 7-10 week Moto and 8 week Fishtail are at 12 and 10 respectively. I don't particularly mind because I look forward to the finished product but I can see how you could get impatient if you really expected it within that frame.

Basically, yeah.

It doesn't make much sense to state 8 weeks, when the actual lead time turn out to be 16 weeks etc. It would be smart in, a customer service kind of way, to simply state the highest expected lead time when someone puts in an order. People would be much happier getting their jackets earlier than expected than having to wait for them longer than told. Especially now that TOJ is going JC, and the customer base expands beyond SF and SUFU.

I don't mind the longer waits myself. But I can imgaine people who don't "know" the people behind they scences can become a bit anxious. For example: I recently put in an order with an overseas furniture company. They quoted me a lead time of 3-4 weeks. Because I have never dealt with these people before, I think I would be quite anxious if I hadn't seen my furniture or heard anything from then 8 weeks down the road.

What colors will the suiting wool Ma-1 be made in? (other than black and navy) 

Hopefully the transition to JC and buying available stock will help with the lead time problem, but it'll still exist for those that need to adjust length I suppose, on a smaller scale perhaps. I can understand why Drew would be hesitant to make that move, though. Establishing stock means putting a lot of resources into a burst of production, which means finding more workers and tougher quality control/uniformity. May not be the perfect system now but at least it's a little bit simpler than retail.

New Peacoat design just announced... FML

Anyway, first TOJ non-leather, first non-MTM ... Quick and Dirty ... 6'1 190 lbs

Dayum, niqqa drinkin' too much kefir...

so jelly.  leather is the wow factor.  just saw skyfall and daniel craig had this nice peacoat thing with the leather on the back of collar...thought of toj right away.  

 

never thought i would ever get a non-leather, but drooling over the next iteration of the peacoat.  the details on the new one and the collar look really nice, just want it in the original style, 2 pockets, shorter length.  please release soon.  

That Billy Reid Skyfall edition peacoat sold out during pre-sale at around $695... so they made another run that also sold out.