Aha. It could be the guy who cuts the motos does it differently than the guy who cuts the mdr's, then. If it is different persons at all, that is.
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The new official TOJ thread, 2011 - Page 1800
I have the CM and 4zip 2011 and they're very different in effect, can't really be compared. The CM has a 1980s New Wave aesthetic, whereas the 4zip is a 2000s rock star / biker revival look. Both are nice in their own ways.

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Did I get the cuffs too big (5.5), or can most of you dudes put a fist through the cuff as well?
Fit is 99% perfect, but this might be an easy alteration...
I wanna say the cuffs on both of mine are around 5.5", and I don't think I could get my hand through them when they're zipped. I have kinda big hands, though.

Received my dark whiskey calf CM with silver zips a couple weeks ago and it s amazing, Charly aced the sizing, the calf break in was much faster than I anticipated, to the point where it s really nothing to be concerned with. A TOJ jacket is a real compliment getter and a great experience to aquire. I think the couple months wait makes you enjoy it that much more once it s there.
I ll be ordering soon again ... A T3 or a 4zip ... That red soft calf looks so nice...
Dark whiskey/silver zip CM bros!

I have a blacked out 2 zip moto. I often wonder what it would be like with 4 zips. It does seem like a wall of leather with nothing breaking it up at times. But then, I have a feeling that if I had 4 zips, I would wonder about 2 zips...because well, it'll look "cleaner".
but in the end, / | \ would probably be best but that aint never happening, gaaahhh!

Shit! Are y'all not doing the baseball anymore? It's probably been discussed in here already, so sorry if that's true. I haven't really been keeping up with this thread but I was finally going to put an order in for one this morning, went to the site and it's not an option. 
Seems like everyone is regretting not picking up a baseball earlier.
hey guys what way to start off my 1st post w/ my mdr, which just arrived like 30 mins ago. waited 4 months for this so i couldn't be arsed to change my shirt (was sleeping when the postman knocked on my door...) The jacket is amazing--leather is just WOW--and the fit is perfect. My only concern is that the main zipper is kind of hard to separate, but i guess i'll get used to it with more wear and figure out a way that makes it easier. Anyway, here are some pics:
Yup I'm a girl; I ordered off the men's mdr and gave charly my measurements. Had some reservations but decided to give toj benefit of the doubt. result: no complaints whatsoever (unless im just a peasant and can't see badfit)
(yes im aware of the sorry state of my apartment, will clean after midterms crunch is over x_x) heheheee! off to save money so i can order a qbcdr next~~~
Edited by harliprilarlar - 1/31/13 at 10:39pm
Yep! I just kinda kept putting it off, thinking it would be there. I knew they were going to get rid of some of the different models but I thought that one would continue on. Guess I'll be keeping my eyes peeled on B&S.
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