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Well, one of the more enticing things about buying second hand TOJ is avoiding the wait.

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meh. Personally, I can wait. Time really does fly but I do understand that not having to wait is a big deal. But I also just don't think that skipping a 3 month(?) waiting period is enough to justify buying a used and not made to measure jacket at only a few dollars off retail.
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Originally Posted by IronKnochs View Post

Well, one of the more enticing things about buying second hand TOJ is avoiding the wait.

 

nice plug there with that peacoat in your sig.... 

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Originally Posted by IronKnochs View Post

Well, one of the more enticing things about buying second hand TOJ is avoiding the wait.

Man, people are really impatient.
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Originally Posted by Renalan View Post


Something about asians and ToJ.

is that potrero hill in san francisco?
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I've experienced B&S TOJ first hand before buying from TOJ direct and it leaves you with a feeling of wanting just that little bit more. Yes people provide measurements for you on the listings but you don't really quite get the accurate sizing down. You really won't know how the fit will be like until your package arrives. The different materials, the way it was cut, and the drape may not fit you well- all because it was made to spec. for the previous owner. I'm not saying that there aren't success stories from B&S but they are pretty rare. Yes you save a few bucks, but you can never really get it down to the exact measurements that you would like and it really makes you want an extra detail or two that you really wish you had. It is one thing to see the measurements on paper and another to actually experience the thought process behind an extra few inches here and there via e-mails with TOJ. The TOJ process really is that much better to provide your measurements and have Charly "fit" it for you. The service they provide is really something, and definitely worth the wait.
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is that potrero hill in san francisco?

hayes valley
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Bottle green 2010 DR kinda hard to capture the color and sizing but I tried
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Should be quite a few ToJ owners in the SF Bay Area.
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Originally Posted by brad-t View Post


Man, people are really impatient.

Not really, some people have waited as long as 6 months. That's a long time to wait for a jacket.

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Originally Posted by 13k View Post

I've experienced B&S TOJ first hand before buying from TOJ direct and it leaves you with a feeling of wanting just that little bit more. Yes people provide measurements for you on the listings but you don't really quite get the accurate sizing down. You really won't know how the fit will be like until your package arrives. The different materials, the way it was cut, and the drape may not fit you well- all because it was made to spec. for the previous owner. I'm not saying that there aren't success stories from B&S but they are pretty rare.
Because online shopping was a total disaster before TOJ came through with an MTM option.

If you have a general idea of the fit you want, and the length you'll need, there's nothing wrong with buying from B&S. My first jacket was from B&S, and even though it wasn't skintight, it fit/looked good on me. If you usually wear a 46 in everything else, you'll want a 46 in TOJ. Fit disasters only happen when people can't measure their best fitting jacket to compare it to the listing.

edit: my first wasn't skintight. shog[1].gif
Edited by omgcookielol - 12/4/12 at 6:21pm
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Originally Posted by omgcookielol View Post

Because online shopping was a total disaster before TOJ came through with an MTM option.
If you have a general idea of the fit you want, and the length you'll need, there's nothing wrong with buying from B&S. My first jacket was from B&S, and even though it was skintight, it fit/looked good on me. If you usually wear a 46 in everything else, you'll want a 46 in TOJ. Fit disasters only happen when people can't measure their best fitting jacket to compare it to the listing.

Wasn't saying that as a generalization that about online shopping but about toj products on B&S. There definitely isn't anything wrong with B&S either. Most of what you stated is pretty obvious but for first timers on jackets you can't just base off "size 46 chart." Material thickness cannot be underestimated when trying to fit a jacket. Most people who list B&S list measurements of the outside (may not even be that trustworthy) and when you actually get the jacket may fit too tight because you didn't/can't compensate for material thickness. Obviously the risk of it all is there in B&S and when it really comes down to it paying 5-600 for a B&S jacket vs. full price isn't very much difference when you get exactly what you want.
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Thread Starter 
there haven't been size charts for years....
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Actually, Drew, there are still size charts on the John Coppidge website.

Anyway, I think Drew's really right about sizing. Most people just don't need MTM, and this thread fusses about it way way too much. Suit style width x height is good enough for the vast majority of people.
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Originally Posted by Arethusa View Post

Actually, Drew, there are still size charts on the John Coppidge website.
Anyway, I think Drew's really right about sizing. Most people just don't need MTM, and this thread fusses about it way way too much. Suit style width x height is good enough for the vast majority of people.


Most people don't need a $700 leather jacket but it's available and within means.

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