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post #24301 of 41801
I have realized that every customer (including myself) of TOJ/JC go through a three phase trend.

Phase I (The Excessive Questioning Phase, est. time frame: 1 week - indefinite):
1. Bug Charly
2. Bug thread
3. Repeat loop

ie. Should I get lamb/calf/goat in black/brown/olive/red/yadda yadda

Phase II (The Wait, est. time frame: 4 weeks - 23 weeks):
1. Be sure to post in thread what you copped
2. Doubt self measurements
3. Remeasure
4. Bug Charly (potential further delays)
5. Repeat steps 2, 3, & 4

Phase III (The Self Doubting Phase aka. Blame Charly Phase, est. time frame: directly proportional to insecurity level):
1. Measure jacket
2. Compare to Charly's recommended measurements
3. Post pictures
4. Get bombarded by users who think jackets should be skin tight
5. Downward spiral of drugs and alcohol
6. Sell jacket
7. Jacket was actually great but it's too late
8. Regret and tears
9. Blame Charly

Dang, Charly can really take a beating.
post #24302 of 41801
Charly can give out a beating too. Look how jacked he is.
post #24303 of 41801
Quote:
Originally Posted by gettoasty View Post

He fat

 

Yep compared to this board I would be fat. Im 6'3" and 210. I got sick once and got down to 185. Ive seen cats my same height post that they weigh 150-165. How in the hell? 

 

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Originally Posted by GBear View Post

I have realized that every customer (including myself) of TOJ/JC go through a three phase trend.
Phase I (The Excessive Questioning Phase, est. time frame: 1 week - indefinite):
1. Bug Charly
2. Bug thread
3. Repeat loop
ie. Should I get lamb/calf/goat in black/brown/olive/red/yadda yadda
Phase II (The Wait, est. time frame: 4 weeks - 23 weeks):
1. Be sure to post in thread what you copped
2. Doubt self measurements
3. Remeasure
4. Bug Charly (potential further delays)
5. Repeat steps 2, 3, & 4
Phase III (The Self Doubting Phase aka. Blame Charly Phase, est. time frame: directly proportional to insecurity level):
1. Measure jacket
2. Compare to Charly's recommended measurements
3. Post pictures
4. Get bombarded by users who think jackets should be skin tight
5. Downward spiral of drugs and alcohol
6. Sell jacket
7. Jacket was actually great but it's too late
8. Regret and tears
9. Blame Charly
Dang, Charly can really take a beating.

 

Funny, this is my experience but even before I considered a TOJ I understood why this was the case. 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by ryosuke View Post

Charly can give out a beating too. Look how jacked he is.

 

Funny. 

post #24304 of 41801
So, just to be in line with the last few posts, we are expecting a wait time up to 23 weeks at the current moment?
post #24305 of 41801
Honestly, looking through my email at how many times I asked Charly to change my measurements while waiting on my MDR is kind of embarassing. Over stupid shit too... like .2-.5" rolleyes.gif
post #24306 of 41801
The wait time really depends on what model you order / if you make silly changes to your order after you place it / etc.
post #24307 of 41801

More than a year, I used to wear TOJ bomber almost everyday. Calf was nice, durable and enjoyed wearing it both with and without its fur collar. Overall good purchase. As much as I like it, I don't wear it often anymore, because it's brown (color that I am not a fan anymore) and p2p is slightly too tight atm. satisfied.gif

post #24308 of 41801
what color would you prefer?
post #24309 of 41801
Quote:
Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

what color would you prefer?

The jacket is 2010 bomber, so I think brown was the best choice. Right now, I'd probably buy some different style in black or grey and most likely it wouldn't be leather at all, but if it was leather then black.

post #24310 of 41801
Quote:
Originally Posted by GBear View Post

I have realized that every customer (including myself) of TOJ/JC go through a three phase trend.
Phase I (The Excessive Questioning Phase, est. time frame: 1 week - indefinite):
1. Bug Charly
2. Bug thread
3. Repeat loop
ie. Should I get lamb/calf/goat in black/brown/olive/red/yadda yadda
Phase II (The Wait, est. time frame: 4 weeks - 23 weeks):
1. Be sure to post in thread what you copped
2. Doubt self measurements
3. Remeasure
4. Bug Charly (potential further delays)
5. Repeat steps 2, 3, & 4
Phase III (The Self Doubting Phase aka. Blame Charly Phase, est. time frame: directly proportional to insecurity level):
1. Measure jacket
2. Compare to Charly's recommended measurements
3. Post pictures
4. Get bombarded by users who think jackets should be skin tight
5. Downward spiral of drugs and alcohol
6. Sell jacket
7. Jacket was actually great but it's too late
8. Regret and tears
9. Blame Charly
Dang, Charly can really take a beating.

I've had 5 jackets made so far- tan baseball, VTG calf (now developing into a golden brownish shade), black lamb moto, brown goat bomber, and navy peacoat. Except my first order when I queried when it would get to me, and the last time when I lost 15 pounds of weight and my measurements actually changed, I don't think I've ever unilaterally gotten back to TOJ once I've placed an order. They've always delivered in the 90%range (fit, style, materials). 100% would only come if it's bespoke, which is not bloody likely for me for 'casual' stuff.

I'm more than happy.

Then again, I'm 44 years old and my reasons for buying TOJ have more to do with purchasing a durable, high quality MTM product that- with good care- will last me a long time, rather than look stylish or fashionable (i'm not using either word as as a pejorative) or worry about precise/ exact fits.

However, for the same reasons stated above, I also think I already have the spectrum of TOJ jackets I need, and at this stage I believe that it would now take something extraordinary for me to purchase another jacket. The shirts and trousers are another matter- I have not yet made up my mind about those.
post #24311 of 41801
What do you think about English shoe makers with black TOJ leather? For example Trickers Stow
Might be too old man?
post #24312 of 41801
Thread Starter 
i dont think broguing goes with TOj leathers, but a proper english derby with maybe a customized sole does. That's what I'm looking to make in the future.
post #24313 of 41801
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cyc wid it View Post

The wait time really depends on what model you order / if you make drastic changes to your order after you place it / etc.

ftfy
post #24314 of 41801
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucifer View Post

So, just to be in line with the last few posts, we are expecting a wait time up to 23 weeks at the current moment?

no, it's more like 8 weeks. We have a very small handful of people who paid for stuff around the middle of June for 'cutoff orders' (cutoff was May 31) and we've pushed them out consistently the whole time. Nowadays the order flow has shrunken for now and we're looking at about 8 weeks or less. It only depends on the rate of orders per day vs the rate of orders deliverable per day, the latter is fixed.
post #24315 of 41801

thenewjs, it's too long, and the sleeves far too long, also da fuck did you get that lining for?????? think the toj1 needs to fit slim ish to look it's best!

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