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my lamb is gnarly from wear, and probably from lack of lotioning after wearing in the rain as well
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yes, the beige lamb is much thinner than the other colors, especially the black and brown. That was mentioned before, but awhile back admittedly. It's not a tanned leather like the darker colors or even the assorted mixed colors, so I never put it on the menu. Charly just had that one made for his friend and then people asked for it later.

long story short: all of the materials and stuff are different when you start changing variables. I realize that is mostly understood but I do get a little apprehensive when people start overcomplicating their orders or seemingly spec a jacket with stuff just to add more shit to it (I think it was computurd? recently who ordered some overly complex version of a Moto or DR and I couldn't help but think that he should've just ordered it as stock) - there are the rare few 'custom' jackets that come out nicely, but I can pretty much tell by looking at the leather and then visualize it as a certain style beforehand and can say whether it's a good makeup or not. Sounds kind of controlling but I just want the jackets to always be as nice as they can.
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Is it confirmed that MTM will go out once the new styles are in?

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Yeah like I said, we will start moving things to a website with checkout. We'll alleviate some wait times, let things answer a lot of the questions on their own, and it'll make things easier and honestly add more to the experience, since there's a lot we don't ever even get around to addressing and just hope you notice it on the products on their own. I've let the products speak for themselves the whole time but in doing so, they weren't speaking at all sometimes and the discussion thread gets so deep about small trivial things.
As was said before there might be an MTM option that you can click through and email Charly for, but there will be a surcharge. We really can't afford to sell these jackets MTM at the current price anymore, the price has stayed the same while the supply line continues to skyrocket, it's up like 40% since I started TOJ, maybe more. I also want to continue improving the fabric quality and source from Japan and that will add to the costs as well. In my mind, MTM best represents people who need extra material anyway, so there is a logic to it. I believe the need for the really small sizes (like what equates to 42P) are as important as the extra large sizes (like 54+) but honestly both the demand and sizing are easier to cater to in the small sizes, material footage requirements are like 80% the same... whereas the requirements for the really big guys are more individualized. Once you get that tall some guys are really skinny, some guys aren't, it's mixed. A super large stock size wouldn't fit many and it'd just sit on my virtual racks.
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Originally Posted by impolyt_one View Post

Yeah like I said, we will start moving things to a website with checkout. We'll alleviate some wait times, let things answer a lot of the questions on their own, and it'll make things easier and honestly add more to the experience, since there's a lot we don't ever even get around to addressing and just hope you notice it on the products on their own. I've let the products speak for themselves the whole time but in doing so, they weren't speaking at all sometimes and the discussion thread gets so deep about small trivial things.
As was said before there might be an MTM option that you can click through and email Charly for, but there will be a surcharge. We really can't afford to sell these jackets MTM at the current price anymore, the price has stayed the same while the supply line continues to skyrocket, it's up like 40% since I started TOJ, maybe more. I also want to continue improving the fabric quality and source from Japan and that will add to the costs as well. In my mind, MTM best represents people who need extra material anyway, so there is a logic to it. I believe the need for the really small sizes (like what equates to 42P) are as important as the extra large sizes (like 54+) but honestly both the demand and sizing are easier to cater to in the small sizes, material footage requirements are like 80% the same... whereas the requirements for the really big guys are more individualized. Once you get that tall some guys are really skinny, some guys aren't, it's mixed. A super large stock size wouldn't fit many and it'd just sit on my virtual racks.


Is there still time to get something MTM'd before this all goes down?

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Originally Posted by snowmanxl View Post

so this is listed as cream
http://toj-gallery.com/main.php?g2_itemId=12090
..but in the post about available colours it lists ivory and white (no cream)
im assuming the above jacket is ivory and not pure white, right?
willy, youll be happy im doing my homework and checking out the toj gallery/posts before i post a question biggrin.gif

Damn you Snow, I'm still lusting for this jacket and you just had to remind me with your post right??!
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Get in touch if you feel like supporting a 'local' freelance Ecommerce web designer. cheers.gif

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Originally Posted by impolyt_one View Post

I realize that is mostly understood but I do get a little apprehensive when people start overcomplicating their orders or seemingly spec a jacket with stuff just to add more shit to it (I think it was computurd? recently who ordered some overly complex version of a Moto or DR and I couldn't help but think that he should've just ordered it as stock) - there are the rare few 'custom' jackets that come out nicely, but I can pretty much tell by looking at the leather and then visualize it as a certain style beforehand and can say whether it's a good makeup or not. Sounds kind of controlling but I just want the jackets to always be as nice as they can.
I'm pretty sure that this was me, actually. shog[1].gif quilted murdered out black lamb 4zip mdr.
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Yeah like I said, we will start moving things to a website with checkout. We'll alleviate some wait times, let things answer a lot of the questions on their own, and it'll make things easier and honestly add more to the experience, since there's a lot we don't ever even get around to addressing and just hope you notice it on the products on their own. I've let the products speak for themselves the whole time but in doing so, they weren't speaking at all sometimes and the discussion thread gets so deep about small trivial things.
As was said before there might be an MTM option that you can click through and email Charly for, but there will be a surcharge. We really can't afford to sell these jackets MTM at the current price anymore, the price has stayed the same while the supply line continues to skyrocket, it's up like 40% since I started TOJ, maybe more. I also want to continue improving the fabric quality and source from Japan and that will add to the costs as well. In my mind, MTM best represents people who need extra material anyway, so there is a logic to it. I believe the need for the really small sizes (like what equates to 42P) are as important as the extra large sizes (like 54+) but honestly both the demand and sizing are easier to cater to in the small sizes, material footage requirements are like 80% the same... whereas the requirements for the really big guys are more individualized. Once you get that tall some guys are really skinny, some guys aren't, it's mixed. A super large stock size wouldn't fit many and it'd just sit on my virtual racks.

i think thats fair as long as you dont do a crazy MTM option markup, form a business perspective it makes a lot of sense, looking forward to the TOJ store
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the last batch of A2s from the cutoff date are still being made? Hopefully it gets here in time before next week so I can wear it for my sister's wedding reception icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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What's the ETA for the rest of the cutoff orders? Still haven't got mine yet. /cry
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There should've been another large shipping run earlier this week or maybe today, because it was a holiday week in Korea from last Saturday until a couple days ago and the post office was closed. We also were waiting to ship some of the lots til we had a lot to ship at once since we pay for them via wire, so there were fewer ship days this past month. I suspect many are getting close if they're not out now. Tracking goes out for those shipped as always.
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Originally Posted by omgcookielol View Post

I'm pretty sure that this was me, actually. shog[1].gif quilted murdered out black lamb 4zip mdr.

you should drop one of those complications, tbh... redface.gif
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Originally Posted by impolyt_one View Post

\(I think it was computurd? recently who ordered some overly complex version of a Moto or DR and I couldn't help but think that he should've just ordered it as stock.

nope ive got a stock as hell cwu coming in, but wouldnt mind if you sent that thing my way too lol

edit: lol omgcookielol why not just get the regular quilted dr. i reckon its probably the best dr out of the current line up and i am surprised it didnt take off like the mdr did. even the snap at the waist hem really adds to it. also black out zips seem like a bad idea. I dunno about everyone else but I always thought they just made the DR look dull as hell.

I think murdered out only looks somewhat decent on the motos.
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Willy or drew, are gold zips available? smile.gif
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