The new official TOJ thread, 2011 - Page 1018

Yea, true-waist is like what 2 inches above the belly button (around there?), which is different than the waist people think of related to jeans--which is closer to the hips...

I don't disagree; drop 10 is well within the range of normal.

All the same, when you were sizing me, you expressed reluctance to add too much suppression in the midsection, and I believe you said it might look weird with the design of the jacket.

And...I dunno, you mentioned that you were thinking about something along those lines a while ago, so I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask.

makes sense

are you hitting on me?

NVM.

lol

These jackets aren't meant to have 'waist suppression' in the sense that a suit jacket would have. They're meant to sit on your hips so it'd look a bit odd (and a bit like a woman's jacket) to follow the lines of your torso exactly. They're already slim as is.

^ true dat.  

I think Drew has said before (correct me if I'm wrong), but the TOJ style (at least for the riders) is having square shoulders with clean lines.  I interpret that as slim, but masculine silhouette.  

Hey Drew does the TOJ machine keep on rolling while your away or do things come to a halt? I’m waiting on my new bomber...

does suede stretch as much as normal leathers if at all?

I will keep processing orders and helping customers. Daniel will keep getting your things made and having them shipped out.

Drew doesn't actually do anything, he just answers questions on here (sometimes) and rambles on (usually).

Charly says too much waist suppression makes you look like a woman!

Usually, suede is a bit stretchier/softer/more malleable than normal leather, which is why it's used for gloves and trims.

absolutely true. You want a \/ shape, not a )( shape