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post #11626 of 44941
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Originally Posted by Carpenoctem View Post

Strange how the shearling on the bombers doesnt increase the price one red cent, since according to drew its so cost prohibitive. If a full coat of the stuff runs three gs id expect the collar to add on at least a few hundo, especially since were now comparing the hide of a completely ordinary farm animal to diamonds and exotic furs. Lol everyone knows sheep is sooo exotic and rare that to make a jacket from one costs at LEAST 3k.

Seriously, SHUT THE FUCK UP.

You're the first person to go on my ban list, conrgratufuckinglations
post #11627 of 44941
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Originally Posted by Nereis View Post

That looks tighter than my DR, seriously. Did you happen to size down?

Im a 40" chest and I got a 50 with shortened sleeves and increased the shoulders a bit if anything.
Looks better unzipped, for now blush.gif
post #11628 of 44941
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post #11629 of 44941
oh no you did the head shave thing, thats so three years ago, at least this wave of it is
post #11630 of 44941
New haircut? Jacket looking better with wear.
post #11631 of 44941
don't give a fuck. i'm all about STYLE not FASHION
post #11632 of 44941
I mean, I think it looks better than your old hair cut, but its just that like a year ago every girl in my neighborhood had that, so its played out to me :/ I dunno how it is in Canada
post #11633 of 44941
according to initial observations, my count of dudes with shaved sides wearing anaconda jackets is at a trendy-but-not-played-out 7

idk i just wanted to try something new, i saw a guy with a similar haircut in a show and thought it looked cool. my girlfriend touches it a lot so ace.
post #11634 of 44941
I must admit the people I've seen it on are 99% girls. You are the 1% biggrin.gif
post #11635 of 44941
this is the greatest jacket ever made btw. i fucking love it.
post #11636 of 44941
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Originally Posted by vaalbara View Post

drew already explained this, the shearling for the bomber isn't as expensive because it only has to look good on the shearling side, not the hide side
now can you please shut the fuck up about shearling?

Wait what? Did I miss a post? That doesnt sound like something Drew would say. Im pretty sure it doesn't affect the pricepoint of the jacket because that jacket maker provides the shearling as part of their agreement.
post #11637 of 44941
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Originally Posted by bows1 View Post

I must admit the people I've seen it on are 99% girls. You are the 1% biggrin.gif

i'm part of the 1% as well. but my hairstyle isn't as aggressive/long as uncontrol's vampire/rocker look
post #11638 of 44941
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by omgcookielol View Post

Wait what? Did I miss a post? That doesnt sound like something Drew would say. Im pretty sure it doesn't affect the pricepoint of the jacket because that jacket maker provides the shearling as part of their agreement.

I explained in my last 10 or 15 posts that shearling is all different and has different prices based on the amount of processing in it and grade it is.

If I walked up to a sheep with a knife and took it's skin off, hung that up and washed the blood off it, and then did some basic bleaching or dying, trimming of the pile, then you end up with the kind of shearling that goes into Uggs, or the shearling part of the TOJ A2 collar, or the Aero jacket Woodyear keeps thinking is 'SHEARLING' - this costs about $4 a square to me. The back side is not presentable as a jacket. It's just blasted on the leather side to get the guts off it and to rough up the finish so that it's uniform.

If I did that and then basically took paint and painted over the leather side of that, it'd be crinkly and a bit hard but look like leather on that side. That is what goes into that $350 Pakistani shearling mentioned like 50 posts back. It's very rudimentary in terms of leather processing. This is also only worth about 4 bucks a square.

If I take that hide, find that it has a particularly choice grain and is free of flaws, and the leather is of thick stock I can process that even more or even bond lambskin to it and make it so that it's fine leather on one side and then nice shearling pile on the other. This stuff is beautiful and when you see it, you know it's gonna be more expensive. It's about $15 a square.

Other things to consider:

-A jacket requires between 45-55 squares; a shearling would require that plus more non-shearling leather to trim it and cover the seams (they are exposed otherwise, as there is no lining in a shearling. The seams are on the outside)
-'regular' lambskin jackets that TOJ makes cost $200 or more for the leather alone, it's $4 a square. That does not include labor, shipping, or other materials that go into the jacket.
-As always, TOJ is made by the same people in Seoul, and wages for individual contractors we use are multiple times higher than the factory workers Woodyear keeps referring to as being paid more. I didn't know Woodyear was a fed and was getting reports on this kind of stuff, but he's way off base. I can tell you that a TOJ leather jacket takes almost one whole day to make, even if you're making several of the same color/material. It's almost a whole shift, and averages out to be that way in terms of production. What would you expect for a day's work, in a country where houses sell and rent at alpha world city prices? Korea is exceedingly expensive, it is not 1955 anymore. FWIW they are paid per jacket as a 'job' per order, and get a triple figure dollar amount for each, in labor alone. I find it hard to believe that anything factory made like a Schott or Aero is made by people making that much money per jacket they complete. Langlitz is made in a garage in Oregon or something, with a pricepoint almost double that of TOJ, so he is definitely making a lot for his labor. In the end though, it'd be ignorant as fuck to think any of these situations are the same.
post #11639 of 44941
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Originally Posted by bows1 View Post

I mean, I think it looks better than your old hair cut, but its just that like a year ago every girl in my neighborhood had that, so its played out to me :/ I dunno how it is in Canada


are you kidding? you have that hair cut. synth has that hair cut. all the fuckin cool dudes have that hair cut right now, look at the recent NY Times article...
post #11640 of 44941
Uncontrolled needs to stop posting pictures lest he forces me to buy a double rider myself.
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