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post #151 of 163
I have both the BB Regent and a HF B series, and a bit on the heavier side. The B-series is definitely a much fuller cut, as my tailor took in quite a bit on the HF coat (and could probably still go in a bit). However, the BB Regent on me is darn near perfect fit on me. I don't know how the C series fits, but if it's even trimmer then it'd probably be good.
post #152 of 163

I just picked up this HF suit from ebay for $60. It's on it's way in the mail right now, so these are just pictures from the listing. Can anyone tell what kind of line this is? Just hoping it's fully canvassed, like the description says. Can anyone confirm that it's NOT one of the cheaper lines? Hoping I scored a bargain!

 

Thanks in advance. I'm really new to this. This would be my first canvassed suit, my first 3 being fused. 

 

 

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post #153 of 163
My guess is fully canvassed - I've never seen a half-canvassed one with Sak's name on it. Probably from the 90's based on the lapels.
post #154 of 163

I just bought 2 Hickey Freeman Suits. The first one I found at Burlington Coat Factory. It was labeled as a 42L but the fit was almost perfect except for the sleeves being too long. It was made from Loro Piana Super 150's and is charcoal with gold pinstripes. It is a mainline suit that had an MSRP of $1,695. I got it for $175. I will pick it up from the tailor on Friday. I had the sleeves shortened and the pants hemmed. They are flat front trousers and I had them hemmed with no cuff. Total tailoring costs, $37. Total investment in suit, $212. I feel like that was a GREAT deal. 

 

The second suit I picked up today at a thrift store near me. They always have some really nice stuff and a local clothier, Guffey's, donates new custom, MTM, and bespoke garments that were never picked up. Some are AMAZING. I got a Hickey Freeman Jacobson's Boardroom in 42R that looks brand new, I guess it may have been worn once. Here are some pics:

 

A close-up of the pattern. 

 

 

I got this second suit for $6.50. Does anyone know how old this suit is? I had to have the sleeves let out, the trousers were too short, and I asked my tailor to remove the pleats in the pants. The total was $110 and I will pick it up on 1/4/14. $55 of the alteration costs were for the pleat removal. 


Edited by Magician Shaun - 12/28/13 at 11:35am
post #155 of 163

Those gorges look old.

post #156 of 163
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Originally Posted by Magician Shaun View Post

I just bought 2 Hickey Freeman Suits. The first one I found at Burlington Coat Factory. It was labeled as a 42L but the fit was almost perfect except for the sleeves being too long. It was made from Loro Piana Super 150's and is charcoal with gold pinstripes. It is a mainline suit that had an MSRP of $1,695. I got it for $175. I will pick it up from the tailor on Friday. I had the sleeves shortened and the pants hemmed. They are flat front trousers and I had them hemmed with no cuff. Total tailoring costs, $37. Total investment in suit, $212. I feel like that was a GREAT deal. 

The second suit I picked up today at a thrift store near me. They always have some really nice stuff and a local clothier, Guffey's, donates new custom, MTM, and bespoke garments that were never picked up. Some are AMAZING. I got a Hickey Freeman Jacobson's Boardroom in 42R that looks brand new, I guess it may have been worn once. Here are some pics:




A close-up of the pattern. 




I got this second suit for $6.50. Does anyone know how old this suit is? I had to have the sleeves let out, the trousers were too short, and I asked my tailor to remove the pleats in the pants. The total was $110 and I will pick it up on 1/4/14. $55 of the alteration costs were for the pleat removal. 

It is probably a mid 90s suit based on the lapels/gorge.
post #157 of 163

I am new to the site, have read a lot of the other comments about HF and wanted to post based on my recent HF suit buying experience for those who are thinking of buying a HF suit.

 

I have several HF suits (models Madison and Edwards -full canvas construction which would generally fall into the Mahogany Collection in today's HF line) and find that they are equal to any high-end off the rack suit (such as Zegna, Canali or Corneliani which I also own) in terms of quality of fabric and construction.  The HF suits are classic business suits.  I bought the HF suits at sample sales a few years ago.  The Edwards suits are 3 button "Hand Tailored" suits that had a retail price of $2,995 at the time, while the Madison suits are 2 button-some with Loro Piana super 130s fabric, that had a retail price of $1,295 at the time.  The HF Madison suits were left overs from various stores such as Barney's, and had those retailer names sewn in as part of the HF label.  The HF Madison is no longer in production.  Instead I found that Neiman Marcus and Nordstrom currently sell the HF Beacon which is in the B Series of the Mahogany Collection.  I went to the store and tried on the suits.  The HF Beacon suit is a classic modern business suit with flat front pants, full canvas construction with a retail price starting at $1,495-$1,595 for the Loro Piana super 150s fabric.

 

I have been waiting for a HF sample sale for years but there has not been any.  I think I know why--HF is selling directly to discount retailers, such a Neiman Marcus Last Call, Off Fifth/Saks, Nordstrom Rack, Gilt, Sierra Trading Post.  I know this because I just bought a few from Neiman Marcus Last Call for $419 a suit and believed I was going to get a suit similar to the HF Madison suits I own.  The NMLC website said the suit it is selling "compare" to ones sold for $1,495 --which is the floor retail price of HF Beacon suits at Neiman Marcus.  When I received the suits I noticed that the model was "Lindsey"on the tag inside the jacket and the sleeve tag.

 

I checked the HF website and did not see the name "Lindsey" in the Mahogany collection. Even under the Sterling Collection which is half-canvas, I didn't see the name Lindsey.  I called HF customer service and confirmed that the HF Lindsey is a suit made for the off-retail distribution channels. Depending on the retailer that buys this Lindsey suit from HF, the suit may be half canvased (the ones I bought were based on my local tailor checking the suit out) or just a floating chest piece.  

 

While the fit of the Lindsay was a modern fit of the Madison for me (flat front pants, shorter jacket), and the fabric was just fine, I returned the suits because I think I can do better for the money.  With shipping, tax and tailoring the HF Lindsey suit would have cost me around $550/suit.  I just bought Brooks Brothers 1818 suits on clearance, one with Saxxon Wool another with Italian super 110s and think those suits at $550-600 are a better value in terms of over all quality, style and fit for me.  

 

The HF customer service agent said that while the HF Lindsey suit was made in the USA and was probably half-canvas it does not have the "bells and whistles" of the Mahogany Collection.  This is clearly the case with the buttons, inside lining and the fabric in general.  I would compare the HF Lindsey suit to a Jos A Bank Signature Gold suit (which I also own).  The HF Lindsey suit is a nice, every day, business suit.  While the fit, fabric and construction were fine for $419, I did not like the fact that NMLC had the $1,495 retail price associated with this suit.  Finally, I spoke with a representative at two of the NMLC stores in 2 different states.  They both confirmed what the HF customer service agent told me.  I also asked when does Neiman Marcus send the left over HF Beacon suits to NMLC, and both agents told me rarely, if ever.  

 

So unless you get lucky at an off price retailer, don't think you are buying the "real deal" Hickey Freeman Mahogany Collection suit for $400-500.  You are getting a good HF Lindsey model or something else made for that discounted retailer. It seems to me the only way to buy the HF Beacon suit for less than $1,495 retail price is to buy it when a department store runs a sale --unless you get really lucky browsing in person one of the discount retailers.  I say in person because the web sites of all of these discount retailers are less than clear in terms of what you are getting and the customer service agents really don't know more than what is posted on these blogs.

post #158 of 163

I bought two HF suits at Last Call.

 

One was the Lindsey.  One was an actual Addison line (Loro Piana 130s).  They had many many of the Lindseys.  The Addison one was a one of a kind.  It had the unfinished sleeves and other signs of something that had been at an actual Neimans.  

 

That said, the Lindsey fit better.  I took it to a tailor at Neimans (don't forget that Neimans will tailor Last Call suits).  He actually thought the Lindsey suit had a better fabric - - but again, he was basing that on hand / feel.  

 

The lapel on the Lindsey is slightly narrower than the Addison, but bought are similar "US business" cuts.

 

Because of promotions, the Lindsey was actually more expensive $410 compared to $380.

 

 

I think bought are great suits.  I actually like the Lindsey better - even knowing that it is half-canvassed compared to the full-canvased Addison.

 

 

Bottom line, if it fits and you like it, just be happy.  But I think at $400, HF suits become an exceptional value. 

post #159 of 163
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Originally Posted by mhdena View Post

Sierra trading post does not carry the mainline as far as I know.

its the Sterling, half canvas, high arm holes, slimmer fitting, flat front, etc. You may like this.


Finding a Hickey Freeman Mainline in a basic Navy solid or stripe, Charcoal solid or stripe in an average size for under $500 doesn't happen everyday in every neighborhood.

If and when you do see one grab it, and then come ask questions, not ask questions hoping it will be there when you go back.

 

and by the way, the Addison I found was a charcoal "micro-check" - - very mainstream.

post #160 of 163

I have numerous HF Mahogany suits and a few sport coats I bought off the main HF website. They only sell Mahogany line there for the most part. They have a line with Zegna fabric now as well.

 

Beware the Lindsey suits. They are mass produced cheapies in my opinion. I bought a few when I first had to start dressing like an adult but have thrifted most of them. (Kept one wool/cashmere winter suit that is great in cold weather). I noticed that all the big outlets (Barneys, Saks, Neiman, Nordstrom Rack, etc.) stock Lindsey suits just to fill their racks. They don't have enough inventory from the main stores to go around I think. Same with Sierra Trading Post, all Lindsey I think. The $1495.00 retail price is faked just to make the "markdown price" look good.

 

HF is having a 30% off sale on their website right now by the way. I'm usually able to wait and get them at end of season sales where the $1500 suits go for around $600. Pretty good deal for a Mahogany line. the "B Series" fit is excellent.

post #161 of 163
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Originally Posted by smittycl View Post

I have numerous HF Mahogany suits and a few sport coats I bought off the main HF website. They only sell Mahogany line there for the most part. They have a line with Zegna fabric now as well.

Beware the Lindsey suits. They are mass produced cheapies in my opinion. I bought a few when I first had to start dressing like an adult but have thrifted most of them. (Kept one wool/cashmere winter suit that is great in cold weather). I noticed that all the big outlets (Barneys, Saks, Neiman, Nordstrom Rack, etc.) stock Lindsey suits just to fill their racks. They don't have enough inventory from the main stores to go around I think. Same with Sierra Trading Post, all Lindsey I think. The $1495.00 retail price is faked just to make the "markdown price" look good.

HF is having a 30% off sale on their website right now by the way. I'm usually able to wait and get them at end of season sales where the $1500 suits go for around $600. Pretty good deal for a Mahogany line. the "B Series" fit is excellent.

Totally agree with this. Outlets are almost exclusively Lindsey suits. And the retail price for the half-canvassed Lindsey is suspiciously close to that of the Mahogany - seems like only about $100 or so difference.

It used to be that you could tell any of the Mohagony collection suits by the model name - always began with "A" or "B. Not sure if they still use that nomenclature. Also agree with the B Series fit. I have a Beacon and really like it. It has more European shoulders. I think the A is more American style, but equally excellent if you like the fit.
Edited by kmdsimpson - Yesterday at 2:00 pm
post #162 of 163
Quote:
Originally Posted by smittycl View Post
 

I have numerous HF Mahogany suits and a few sport coats I bought off the main HF website. They only sell Mahogany line there for the most part. They have a line with Zegna fabric now as well.

 

Beware the Lindsey suits. They are mass produced cheapies in my opinion. I bought a few when I first had to start dressing like an adult but have thrifted most of them. (Kept one wool/cashmere winter suit that is great in cold weather). I noticed that all the big outlets (Barneys, Saks, Neiman, Nordstrom Rack, etc.) stock Lindsey suits just to fill their racks. They don't have enough inventory from the main stores to go around I think. Same with Sierra Trading Post, all Lindsey I think. The $1495.00 retail price is faked just to make the "markdown price" look good.

 

HF is having a 30% off sale on their website right now by the way. I'm usually able to wait and get them at end of season sales where the $1500 suits go for around $600. Pretty good deal for a Mahogany line. the "B Series" fit is excellent.

 

Mahogany is the way to go.  Otherwise, I think much better quality can be had than the Lindsey suits. I had one myself and gave mine away to charity when I learned better about what was out there. 

post #163 of 163
I think the lettered series still have names. The B series are called Beacon. A is still Addison I think but too boxy for my fit.
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