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post #16 of 40
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G&G had a similar plan, though I'm not sure how it's panning out. They wanted an RTW line so it would be the primary funder for their livelihood, and that would let them do bespoke the way they really wanted to do it. This may turn out to be a good thing for English Cut's bespoke business.

--Andre

The markets for bespoke shoes and bespoke suits are so different that I don't think you can draw any meaningful lessons from the G&G example
post #17 of 40
From what I know, Edwin DeBoise (Steed) already provides an MTM service alongside bespoke tailoring and it seems to work well enough.
post #18 of 40
Also of note that he plans to offer RTW (!!!) shirts courtesy of Smyth & Gibson. Before that he tried his hand in bespoke (or glorified MTM if you will) shirts sown in Rayner & Sturges factory. But then stopped to do so (supposedly because of quality issues).

BTW, S&G is based in Northern Ireland, so this is not quite english cut anymore.

Andrey
post #19 of 40
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Originally Posted by andreyb2 View Post
Also of note that he plans to offer RTW (!!!) shirts courtesy of Smyth & Gibson. Before that he tried his hand in bespoke (or glorified MTM if you will) shirts sown in Rayner & Sturges factory. But then stopped to do so (supposedly because of quality issues).

BTW, S&G is based in Northern Ireland, so this is not quite english cut anymore.

Andrey

How about United Kingdom cut?
post #20 of 40
This will be interesting. I have had 2 suits and 1 odd jacket made by Tom over the past 2 years. They are fantastic and I think very well-priced for true bespoke. I have been contemplating ordering a couple of new odd jackets on his next stateside trip, and might consider the MTM option. For suits I will probably stick with the full bespoke. Still, an interesting development, and I hope the venture succeeds for Tom and Paul.
post #21 of 40
this is interesting. wishing him luck in his endeavors ... and would be interested to see the differences between the MTM/RTW offerings and bespoke (WAYWRN big timers - i'm looking at you) on a real life person
post #22 of 40
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post
How about United Kingdom cut?



I have a few Smyth & Gibson shirts, they're really good.
post #23 of 40
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Originally Posted by blackbowtie View Post
From what I know, Edwin DeBoise (Steed) already provides an MTM service alongside bespoke tailoring and it seems to work well enough.

Not only does Edwin offer proper MTM (ie. semi bespoke), for which he'll measure and fit you, but he even offers online MTM too! Mahon will no doubt make a success of this venture just as Edwin has.
post #24 of 40
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Originally Posted by TheWraith View Post
Not only does Edwin offer proper MTM (ie. semi bespoke), for which he'll measure and fit you, but he even offers online MTM too! Mahon will no doubt make a success of this venture just as Edwin has.

Part of this makes no sense to me. With Edwin, he sends out the assembly of his MTM products to a factory. This I get. I don't understand the savings to Tom of offering a bench-made MTM product (if that is what he is offering). Maybe the opportunity costs associated with fittings are greater than I realize.
post #25 of 40
We have to assume he's done his research and thinks he can make a go of exactly what he's now offering. No matter how he intends to achieve his new services, I wish him all the best.
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post #27 of 40
I just saw Tom for a fitting and got to see and try the 40L RTW sample that he's been talking about. I'll be damned if the thing isn't 90 percent of his bespoke work. The elusive feel of his work was totally in his sample and the thing fit me great. I've never found another jacket out there, RTW or custom, with the same feel as his work. It's pretty trim and shares the same soft tailoring of his custom stuff. I think anyone who tries it out will be surprised and quite pleased.

--Andre
post #28 of 40
resurrecting an old thread

got this by e-mail a few weeks back

not sure how it differs from the RTW they announced back then, but the prices for this offer are now down to 415 GBP per suit
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Bespoke Savile Row tailoring is our business. We've been telling you the truth about this craft for ten years and now we want to offer the Savile Row experience to everyone.

Our bespoke service is a specialised product and we're fully aware the cost is out of reach for many people. We have been looking for a way to offer a suit that has the best hallmarks of English tailoring. After a long search and nearly two years in the planning, we feel we have something very special for you. An English Cut suit averaging $700 (£415).

Approaching this from the same angle we approach everything, making quality our priority. We are offering suits made to order, using only fine worsted fabrics from England. We searched everywhere for a maker that would tailor to our exact standards, and we are confident that we have found the best people to tailor for you. Whilst maintaining our soft comfortable style with high armholes for movement. The very essence of an English suit.

There are a lot of companies offering a suit around this price point. But ask yourself, how many of these are actual tailors with a proven background? Do they have a heritage in the trade and know what is most important in a suit?

We look forward to welcoming new clients in to our craft.
post #29 of 40
I'm actually pretty excited about this new line of products and, if I'm able to make it up to NYC for the launch event and get fitted by Mahon himself, am going to try to get in on the first round of orders.
post #30 of 40

Well, the new site is up, and it's tempting.  The range seems a bit limited - 20 shades of navy and charcoal - and you're left to figure out from a single photo of each the differences among the various styles.  Price is outstanding.  I notice that depending on how many suits you sign up for, you get differing levels of service, ranging from entering your measurements online to getting a measurement from "a member of the English Cut team" to having them taken from Mahon himself.  No second fittings of course.  There are some interesting corner cuts, like only having two of four cuff buttons operable.  I wonder how extensive their in-person measuring is, relative to typical MTM.   

 

All in all, I think if I were in one of the cities where I could get measured by his staff, I'd sign up - just to see if nothing else.  But for me, traveling to NY, hotel, etc. could triple the price of a single suit. 

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