hi guys,
so, im looking for a really good hair product, because im not extremly satisfied with mine.
what i got:
american crew fiber
american crew forming cream
paul mitchell tea tree shaping cream
black & white pluko pomade
but none of these give me enough hold for the desired look.
i wanted to go for something "messy" like this (even though im not really a efron fan, i like the style)

so, the thing is: my hair is about the same length, maybe a bit shorter but i will let it grow. hair color matches too actually.
but none of my products give me enough texture and hold at the same time.
so im looking for a great product with amazing hold, bit gel is a no go for me.
any suggestions?
oh and pls excuse my poor english skills
so, im looking for a really good hair product, because im not extremly satisfied with mine.
what i got:
american crew fiber
american crew forming cream
paul mitchell tea tree shaping cream
black & white pluko pomade
but none of these give me enough hold for the desired look.
i wanted to go for something "messy" like this (even though im not really a efron fan, i like the style)
so, the thing is: my hair is about the same length, maybe a bit shorter but i will let it grow. hair color matches too actually.
but none of my products give me enough texture and hold at the same time.
so im looking for a great product with amazing hold, bit gel is a no go for me.
any suggestions?
oh and pls excuse my poor english skills




It has great hold, is not very shiny and very durable. I don`t believe it is very well known in USA, but here in Norway everybody have heard of it. I know Renati is used as a benchmark by Fudge/TIGI creators, as I`ve helped them develop waxes.

german? 
