or Connect
Styleforum › Forums › Men's Style › Classic Menswear › Is cordovan all that?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Is cordovan all that? - Page 3

post #31 of 266
Quote:
Originally Posted by Montauk View Post
I like shell and it's my go-to rain shoe, but don't believe the hype about how it needs nothing but a good stiff brushing for maintenance. Like any leather, Cordovan eventually dries out and cracks without regular nourishment. You can get away with not doing much to supple, brand new shell for quite awhile, but that "bloom" it produces doesn't spring eternally: the more it's wiped off the less there is, and eventually you have the dry shell shoes you see on eBay constantly that crack after a few wears.
So, what would you recommend conditioning it with?
post #32 of 266
Cordovan is great.
post #33 of 266
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ianiceman View Post
Do Alden shells ever go on sale or deep discount?

I've been leering at the captoe blucher in number 8 for a while but not ready to lash out $550 plus. Can't seem to find them any cheaper anywhere.

I just attempted to purchase my first shell cordovans at the BB sale. They are the Alden perforated captoes and I got them for $483.75.

However, they are going back today. I think they are ugly and the last sticks out way too far on the shoe. In addition, they are wider than my C&J and my Ferragamos that I usually wear and just look "ole English".

Anyway, if you are interested and are a size 12...

Maybe on another last I would like them better.

That being said, is cordovan burgundy acceptable to wear evenings? I only have two pairs of black shoes which limits my after 5 wear. Every time I almost buy a black shoe, the brown or tan is so much better looking than the black.

So, can anyone answer the question if the burgundy cordovans are acceptable, that way I can get something more versatile than a black shoe. Also, the cheap-looking sheen on the Alden cordovans in black is not my cup of tea.
post #34 of 266
Quote:
Originally Posted by .Impulsv View Post
So, what would you recommend conditioning it with?
Lexol, boot oil and snoseal. That's what I use on all my smooth leathers depending on what environments the leather is getting exposed to. There's a ton of similar products under various names. Pick your poison and use it on a regular basis.
post #35 of 266
I have a pair. I really like them. Agree that they look good on a boot (mine are chukkas) but I think they are somewhat overrated. I am not likely to need or buy another pair unless something in particular strikes me. I have never been a big fan of using them on wingtips as seems to be all the rage. They are nice for the rain and nasty stuff but I actually find they require just as much upkeep as anything else. That stiff brush stuff is nonsense - they need a proper shine just like anything else.
post #36 of 266
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
You didn't get the joke. I didn't say I approved of the content, nor that you would enjoy it.

I did get it, thanks. A new element in the general lexicon.

And a peculiar fantasy, written by someone I'd wager has never touched a real live woman.

So... thanks for sharing.
post #37 of 266
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crane's View Post
Lexol, boot oil and snoseal. That's what I use on all my smooth leathers depending on what environments the leather is getting exposed to. There's a ton of similar products under various names. Pick your poison and use it on a regular basis.

Note sure what you mean by "boot oil," but in general I'd avoid oil of any sort on shoes you want to take a shine.

Saphir Renovateur always works, of course.
post #38 of 266
If I wear one shoe on a trip lasting several days and that requires a lot of walking, then it's a pair of shells. They are low maintenance and can take a beating.
post #39 of 266
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patek View Post
So, can anyone answer the question if the burgundy cordovans are acceptable, that way I can get something more versatile than a black shoe. Also, the cheap-looking sheen on the Alden cordovans in black is not my cup of tea.
I think n. 8 cordovan looks fine at night. In fact dark burgundy is the most versatile shoe colour.
post #40 of 266
Quote:
Originally Posted by Montauk View Post
Note sure what you mean by "boot oil," but in general I'd avoid oil of any sort on shoes you want to take a shine. Saphir Renovateur always works, of course.
Boot oil as in Filson boot oil which is specifically made for vegetable tanned leather. It replaces the oils that degrade/evaporate that eventually leads to dry or dry rotted leather. You wipe it on, let it soak for a few minutes and then wipe off the excess. In a few days you can wax the leather and shine 'em up. I'm much more concerned with making sure the leather is properly treated than I am about anything else. I've seen way to many nice leather goods meeting an early demise because of poor maintenance or by popular leather myths.
post #41 of 266
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crane's View Post
Boot oil as in Filson boot oil which is specifically made for vegetable tanned leather.
Hmm. The vast majority of even the highest quality dress shoes are NOT made with vegetable tanned leather (aside from the inner lining). I like the look of vegetable tanned leather on bags and briefcases, but it's not meant to hold a shine on dress shoes.
post #42 of 266
Thanks for the offer Patek but I'm a 8.5 or 9! $485 seems pretty cheap so I may swing by BB. The plain CTBs are on the Aberdeen last IIRC, not sure about yours. I thought it looked good when I last saw them but horses for courses.
post #43 of 266
Quote:
Originally Posted by Montauk View Post
Hmm. The vast majority of even the highest quality dress shoes are NOT made with vegetable tanned leather (aside from the inner lining). I like the look of vegetable tanned leather on bags and briefcases, but it's not meant to hold a shine on dress shoes.
This is true, however I don't think you can get the stuff they use for chrome tanning and I personally don't feel like dealing with highly toxic chemicals in any case. No matter how it's tanned you still have to condition the leather if you want it to last. Wax won't cut it. it's just a surface treatment.
post #44 of 266
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post


If you want wingtip, plain-toe, saddle, loafers or monk strap, you're in luck. Otherwise, no.


Do tell!.........Alden on sale through Alden Store or through Shoe Mart or elsewhere? And what season typically?

I'll need to keep my eyes peeled
post #45 of 266
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crane's View Post
This is true, however I don't think you can get the stuff they use for chrome tanning and I personally don't feel like dealing with highly toxic chemicals in any case. No matter how it's tanned you still have to condition the leather if you want it to last. Wax won't cut it. it's just a surface treatment.

I don't mean to derail the thread, but the previously mentioned (and non-toxic) leather conditioners (Lexol, Renovateur, Allen-Edmonds etc) will keep calfskin and shell nourished without compromising their ability to take a shine. Oils are for oil-tanned leathers only.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Classic Menswear
Styleforum › Forums › Men's Style › Classic Menswear › Is cordovan all that?