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Originally Posted by jimmyfingers
I agree most of this is bullshit. A proper diet should be it and most rec a multivitamin.

quality whey is good, but should be cycled. Creatine is good/bad depending on how you use it.

Most people are just wasting their time and money on this stuff. My uncle is a sports doc and deals with the questions all the time.


Multivitamins may shorten lifespan.

Omega-3 research is reasonably solid - so fish oil is probably worth it. Creatine research is also pretty solid for athletic performance.

As for the rest? I thought about trying out PAGG stacking, but it is too pricey on a monthly basis for things of doubtable value (sorry Tim, but an n=1 while changing a ton of other factors is not scientific at all). Maybe if they come out with a unified pill that isn't $92 a month or whatever I'll give it a shot.

Ask your uncle about fat and carbs in the diet. Does dietary cholesterol raise your blood cholesterol? What about saturated fat? How good are those studies?

If he says that they are good studies, he is wrong. Most nutrition studies are observational and just show correlation, and some of them are just terrible studies.
 

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Originally Posted by akatsuki
Multivitamins may shorten lifespan.

Omega-3 research is reasonably solid - so fish oil is probably worth it. Creatine research is also pretty solid for athletic performance.

As for the rest? I thought about trying out PAGG stacking, but it is too pricey on a monthly basis for things of doubtable value (sorry Tim, but an n=1 while changing a ton of other factors is not scientific at all). Maybe if they come out with a unified pill that isn't $92 a month or whatever I'll give it a shot.

Ask your uncle about fat and carbs in the diet. Does dietary cholesterol raise your blood cholesterol? What about saturated fat? How good are those studies?

If he says that they are good studies, he is wrong. Most nutrition studies are observational and just show correlation, and some of them are just terrible studies.


Some good stuff here. I'll just add that *synthetic multivitamins are the ones that can shorten your life. Synthetic isolates are dangerous! A study in Switzerland showed a 19% INCREASE in breast cancer amongst women taking a multivitamin.
 

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Originally Posted by MikeO
Why would one need to cycle whey?

They wouldn't, provided they use a pure brand with no heavy metals, artificial flavorings, etc... I'm a proponent for buying the most bare-bones whey you can and adding your own flavors so at least you know where they're coming from.
 

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green tea extract is an idiot proof supplement with guaranteed positive effects. cheap, too. no reason not to take it.
 

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Originally Posted by sharwood
What are the guaranteed positive effects?

Probably the most nutrient-dense caffeine source on earth
 

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My current list:
Optinum Nutritions: whey, casein, multi, fiber
USP labs: jack3d
MRI: black powder
Gaspari nutritions: BCAA 6000
no brand omegas, fish oil.
 

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May be slightly OT, but is anyone else pissed at the FDA for banning piracetam? I was just getting into the groove w/ it and they pulled it, no doubt realizing its potential marketability. Kunts.
 

matt22616

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I was talking about it w/ my friend who's in a pharmacology program (gateway to his MD), and he put it very well: "The FDA just likes to **** on everyone's parade."
 

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