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post #46 of 155
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Originally Posted by jimmyfingers View Post
I agree most of this is bullshit. A proper diet should be it and most rec a multivitamin.

quality whey is good, but should be cycled. Creatine is good/bad depending on how you use it.

Most people are just wasting their time and money on this stuff. My uncle is a sports doc and deals with the questions all the time.

Multivitamins may shorten lifespan.

Omega-3 research is reasonably solid - so fish oil is probably worth it. Creatine research is also pretty solid for athletic performance.

As for the rest? I thought about trying out PAGG stacking, but it is too pricey on a monthly basis for things of doubtable value (sorry Tim, but an n=1 while changing a ton of other factors is not scientific at all). Maybe if they come out with a unified pill that isn't $92 a month or whatever I'll give it a shot.

Ask your uncle about fat and carbs in the diet. Does dietary cholesterol raise your blood cholesterol? What about saturated fat? How good are those studies?

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If he says that they are good studies, he is wrong. Most nutrition studies are observational and just show correlation, and some of them are just terrible studies.
post #47 of 155
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Originally Posted by akatsuki View Post
Multivitamins may shorten lifespan.

Omega-3 research is reasonably solid - so fish oil is probably worth it. Creatine research is also pretty solid for athletic performance.

As for the rest? I thought about trying out PAGG stacking, but it is too pricey on a monthly basis for things of doubtable value (sorry Tim, but an n=1 while changing a ton of other factors is not scientific at all). Maybe if they come out with a unified pill that isn't $92 a month or whatever I'll give it a shot.

Ask your uncle about fat and carbs in the diet. Does dietary cholesterol raise your blood cholesterol? What about saturated fat? How good are those studies?

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
If he says that they are good studies, he is wrong. Most nutrition studies are observational and just show correlation, and some of them are just terrible studies.

Some good stuff here. I'll just add that *synthetic multivitamins are the ones that can shorten your life. Synthetic isolates are dangerous! A study in Switzerland showed a 19% INCREASE in breast cancer amongst women taking a multivitamin.
post #48 of 155
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Originally Posted by jimmyfingers View Post
quality whey is good, but should be cycled.

LOL, strong broscience
post #49 of 155
Why would one need to cycle whey?
post #50 of 155
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Originally Posted by MikeO View Post
Why would one need to cycle whey?

They wouldn't, provided they use a pure brand with no heavy metals, artificial flavorings, etc... I'm a proponent for buying the most bare-bones whey you can and adding your own flavors so at least you know where they're coming from.
post #51 of 155
green tea extract is an idiot proof supplement with guaranteed positive effects. cheap, too. no reason not to take it.
post #52 of 155
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Originally Posted by jarude View Post
green tea extract is an idiot proof supplement with guaranteed positive effects. cheap, too. no reason not to take it.

What are the guaranteed positive effects?
post #53 of 155
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Originally Posted by sharwood View Post
What are the guaranteed positive effects?

Probably the most nutrient-dense caffeine source on earth
post #54 of 155
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Originally Posted by sharwood View Post
What are the guaranteed positive effects?

here
post #55 of 155
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Originally Posted by jarude View Post

...not impressed.
post #56 of 155
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Originally Posted by jarude View Post
green tea extract is an idiot proof supplement with guaranteed positive effects. cheap, too. no reason not to take it.

No proof of your claim....prove it with sited medical sources that say as such.
post #57 of 155
My current list: Optinum Nutritions: whey, casein, multi, fiber USP labs: jack3d MRI: black powder Gaspari nutritions: BCAA 6000 no brand omegas, fish oil.
post #58 of 155
May be slightly OT, but is anyone else pissed at the FDA for banning piracetam? I was just getting into the groove w/ it and they pulled it, no doubt realizing its potential marketability. Kunts.
post #59 of 155
I am still pissed that they banned ephedra.
post #60 of 155
I was talking about it w/ my friend who's in a pharmacology program (gateway to his MD), and he put it very well: "The FDA just likes to shit on everyone's parade."
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