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post #1 of 55
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I've been popping for 5 ish years now. I still suck. My crew at my school is a breaking crew, so I break a little, but am primarily an e-boy -_-; lol. ITT: we post videos we think are cool (not just street style, but i'd also like to see some dope modern, ballet, salsa, what have you. i'm sure there are other people out there like me in different styles) skip to 4:20 for an awesome rendition of a classic michael jackson song just so you know in competitions the dj plays whatever song fancies him. to be a high level popper you basically have to know as much music as the dj. it's kind of crazy I've been watching kite for 3, 4 years now and he never ceases to amaze me. I dunno if you guys know about popping, but I would say it's one of the more creative dances. It's about reinterpretation of a few basic moves (boogaloo rolls, twist-o-flexes, basic hits and angles). I think what's enjoyable about at least watching it is, how people use those basic moves to show their mastery of a certain song (funk is a huge part of popping). I think most ppl who see popping on So you think you can dance and go crazy about it have no concept of what popping is really about. The stuff you see in commercials (like crazy waving and glides) are the commercial side of it. The really dope stuff I think are in competition. I love the surprise moves during certain beat breaks. Same with breaking. Machine, Born, etc are so creative with their musicality. Just shows you don't have to be a gymnast to be a good breaker. also it's called breaking. not breakdancing here's more kite. i posted this on sufu once and ppl were like he's fast and all and i don't get it. to get it you have to listen to the music and see how he expresses it. another michael jackson song here's one of bboy ynot. ynot is to james brown as kite is to michael jackson that was a top rock seven to smoke. top rock is the beginning dance of a bboy's set where you try and express the music primarily by standing up (top part of the rock). there's uprock which is a real degeneration of what uprock used to be. you generally then get on the floor with footrock, maybe do some power moves and end with a freeze. there's a lot of free from tho. ppl don't stick to the general structure and play around with a lot. seven to smoke means you have to beat seven people in a row to win. generally takes a shitload of time as nobody is that good, but it's great fun more bboy ynot ynot, crazy legs, bonita, and dj skeme richards came to my school once. awesome memory this is one of the best battles i've seen in a long time. neguin's seriously improved from bcones a few years ago
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post #2 of 55
This stuff is pretty interesting. Only watched part of the first video, will come back to check out the rest a bit later, but theres no way I could think of doing this shit lol just hurts me looking at it
post #3 of 55
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you should see some of the OGs like popping pete (I think in his late 40s) still doing it (generally as judge showcases). this is one of poppin onion aka michael kim. i saw him first on so you think you can dance. prolly the only really legit popper that was on the show. just listen to the music and then see how he hits. fuckign amazing here's another one of onion i swear at least a tenth of those views are mine. watched this one video straight for hours on end when i first learned of onion. he's so good he can make you cry
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post #4 of 55
Nice popping! I love the attitude that hip-hop dancers of all styles bring to the stage, and how they play with the rhythm.

Here's Grupo de Rua, a Brazilian hip-hop group that does what could be called deconstructed hip-hop:



Since we're talking about Swan Lake recently, here is one of the most perfectly performed versions of this variation you will ever see. Marianela Nunez of the Royal Ballet performs Odile's act 2 solo. Notable things include how well she holds her turns (the pique attitude turns are unreal like 1:23), how classically perfect her technique is, and how she integrates her head and arms expressively, especially in the ending diagonal for the lame duck turns (1:55). She is probably my favorite ballerina dancing today.



And here's what some contemporary ballet looks like. This is Wayne McGregor's Chroma with music by Joby Talbot, which includes some White Stripes orchestrated, danced by Alina Cojocaru and Ed Watson, again with the Royal Ballet:



He likes bendy dancers, and he asks for a lot of freedom in their upper bodies, which is kind of alien to many ballet dancers. It's interesting how the weird positions move through many classical positions, and then distorts them. You can see this more in the quiet section at 2:23.

--Andre
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post #5 of 55
do you throw your hands up in the air sometimes...?
post #6 of 55
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^ I do when it's dope ^^ that was exactly the kind of post i was looking for. the last two videos especially are were amazing. i got chills at the pique attitude turns. man i feel like i'm on the edge of witnessing a whole new universe. i've seen student ballet and modern dance shows, but i never could really appreciate it. some of it's very odd to say the least, but the i can imagine developing the techniques could take years the ballerina in quiet part of the third clip is hot is everything choreographed to the tee or is there a lot of leeway on part of the dancers? what is deconstructed hip hop? i've never heard the term before. it reminded me of prepix 3:16 especially is just amazing. you see similar ideas in like bollywood and stuff, but the slow motion idea was refreshing. i dunno how to explain it in words. kind of like exponential movement vs linear. the next one reminded of stuff like julius shows. the timing, the choreo, everything is amazing. the one thing i really appreciate the most on hip hop routines/shows is the formation changes. it's so mind boggling how something simple as moving places can look so complex. i used to really look down on hip hop as i thought it was just degenerated forms of funk styles like popping and locking, but prepix really opened my eyes
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post #7 of 55
The Prepix stuff is pretty cool. I'm always amazed at how much the Asian community is taking up hip-hop.

Most ballet pieces are choreographed for every count in the music. Sometimes there's a small section of improv, but that's mostly in the more contemporary stuff. In the studio, when a piece is being made, there's a lot of improv --- the choreographer will often ask for ideas from the dancers, and then pull together bits and pieces to make the piece.

I found my way into ballet through a student recital too, and I totally wasn't expecting it, so just go and see shows, and you'll find your way if the art says something to you.

Deconstruction generally means taking something completely apart, down to its essential components, and then building something that may look completely different from the original, but is still true to the spirit and feeling of the original piece. Generally people do this to discover something new about the original piece. The Grupo de Rua stuff has some basic elements from hip-hop, but it's put together with a totally different sensibility.

The drumming in the first Prepix piece, and their slow-fast-slow movement in the 2nd piece reminds me of this Jiri Kylian piece called Falling Angels. Kylian is one of the foremost modern choreographers working today, and this piece is set to Steve Reich's Drumming:



You can see all sorts of syncopated movement as well as complicated rhythmic relationships between the various dancers. Just when you think something is predictable, he tosses something new in there. My favorite aspect of this piece is how many images he creates in the course of the whole dance.

His range is pretty big, as he also created this next piece, Petite Mort, in the same time period. This is one of the most beautiful moments in a series of duets, set to a really famous Mozart piano concerto:



Petite Mort is usually done in the same show as Falling Angels, and a few other very different pieces (called the "Black and White Ballets"), all from the same creative period in Kylian's life. Youtube has the complete Petite Mort if you're interested --- just look for Petite Mort 1/2, and 2/2.

Another really interesting piece of his I saw recently is 27'52" (that's how long it is), and it's a little hard to explain, but it shows his range again:



His dancers are all well-trained ballet dancers, and many of his pieces are in the rep of classical ballet companies.

--Andre
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post #8 of 55
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^ that was fantastic. i loved the literal interpretation of the music. seriously. wow. soo good. yeah. japan and korea (maybe china and taiwan more nowadays) have been forerunners of street style for the past decade. ever since expression won battle of the year in 2002 , i think they've been gettin serious recognition. i think it used to be that japan was the popping and lockin country, and korea was breaking, but boundaries are seriously breaking down. korean poppers have been winning a ton of competitions and japanese breakers are really pushing the limit. this is ichigeki's show at boty 2005. they're a japanese crew that eventually split up. there was a documentary about that boty called bboy world. it shows how most of them aren't able to sustain their lifestyle (at least they werent able to then) and ichigeki broke up soon afterwards. a lot of key members got absorbed into other crews, but a lot of them also had to work (taking on the family business being salarymen etc) one of the more creative breaking shows i've seen besides expression's marionette and the glow in the dark thingy
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post #9 of 55
Hopefully we can revive this thread. Here's a cool video of ballet dancers filmed at 500 fps super slo-mo (watch it in full-screen 720p if you can):



As someone obsessed with minute technical detail, I was totally tripping out over this video. But for the regular folks here, something interesting to note: at 1:06, the guy starts what is called a double tour en l'air: he jumps straight up, turns twice in the air and lands.

For all of you power-cleaners and Olympic lifters, note his perfect triple extension: his hips, knees and ankles are all in perfect extension. No flexion or hyperextension. What athletes strive to do to generate maximum power, ballet dancers do because it's what looks best. And as a nice bonus, they get huge jumps.

--Andre
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post #10 of 55
I just keep up-to-date with Movement Lifestyle.
post #11 of 55
none of the videos in this thread have anything on this guy:

skip to 40 seconds in

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post #12 of 55
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^get that shit out of here. you're 10 years too late. david elsewhere might look cool to the layperson, but that shit's not dancing much less popping. dancing = moving to the music. he's not moving to the music he's just moving in random waves. the first popper (mike song) at least understands this concept.


@AY

that was really nice.

i don't really have any videos i thought was worth sharing yet. will update thread when i do.
post #13 of 55
thanks indesertum - that's great. wish i could move...

i used to think lindyhop was the coolest but might have to revist that
post #14 of 55
My favorite variation of popping is ticking and animation....seeing someone do it well in person is an absolute trip.
post #15 of 55
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Originally Posted by Fraiche View Post
My favorite variation of popping is ticking and animation....seeing someone do it well in person is an absolute trip.

maybe youve seen it, but check out u-min's uniqlo ad. u-min's animation skills are godly. it's like they're lagging in real life



thanks gutman. im glad you enjoyed it.
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