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Originally Posted by
Bill Smith 
First date: lunch, coffee, desert, a long walk in the afternoon somewhere nice and let events unfold as they should.
Too much food. I suggest an activity date (festival, miniature golf, maybe go-karting, etc). Better still, don't tell her where you're going. Tell her what to wear and say its a surprise. Women love anticipation.
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Originally Posted by
Bill Smith 
High end dining on the first date= pretension and trying too hard.
+1. Too cliche as well.