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post #46 of 67
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Originally Posted by lakewolf
I do have one pair in flanel and another in worsted.
What does actually "flanel" and "worsted" mean? I mean, I know what flanel looks like (I actually like the look of flanel striped suits, and I intend to get one some day), but what is the definition? And worsted?
post #47 of 67
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Originally Posted by Mr. Checks
To answer the second poster: black pants are a sure sign of a lack of imagination and therefore, we decided collectively that they are bad.

Black pants aren't a sign of a lack of imagination, people who cannot wear black pants in an interesting way suffer for a lack of imagination.
post #48 of 67
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Originally Posted by gorgekko
Black pants aren't a sign of a lack of imagination, people who cannot wear black pants in an interesting way suffer for a lack of imagination.

You got served!
post #49 of 67
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Originally Posted by epa
What does actually "flanel" and "worsted" mean? I mean, I know what flanel looks like (I actually like the look of flanel striped suits, and I intend to get one some day), but what is the definition? And worsted?

worsted is the 3-season lightweight wool, flanel ist the heavier wool for winter

There are some specific densities but I am not so sure about... I think worsted is around 8 ounces and flanel around 11 ? somebody should know better in the forum.
post #50 of 67
Flannel and worsted are different ways of making wool yarn, and thus fabric. Basically, worsteds are much smoother and "harder" finished, while flannels are much softer and generally have less sheen and less sharp details in the patterns.
post #51 of 67
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Originally Posted by oldseed
for a good reason. it's tried, true, and looks good, bar none.

sd

Actually, most of the time it looks like ass. 9/10 guys I see wearing black suits look horrible. I'm not saying there aren't any nice black suits, but most look cheap, are poorly fitted, and are matched with horrendous shoes. What's even worse are black sportsjackets. In actual fact they're probably suit jackets but I saw one today worn with khaki pants and it was SOOOOOOOO fugly.

Regardless, I tend to hide my disgust. And I suppose I should thank them, for it just makes me look better by comparison :P
post #52 of 67
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Originally Posted by GQgeek
9/10 guys I see wearing black suits look horrible. look cheap, are poorly fitted, and are matched with horrendous shoes.
Can't the same be said of any color suit?
post #53 of 67
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Originally Posted by Tomasso
Can't the same be said of any color suit?

I suppose you're right, but I see so many black suits that I just hate them. The only time I'll ever wear a black suit again is at a funeral, preferably mine.
post #54 of 67
Think on it dear forumites...

Black has allways been considered traditional as the most elegant of colors...

That's why black tie and white tie are basically BLACK suits...
post #55 of 67
1) There are worsted yarns and woolen yarns. This depends largely on how the raw wool is treated before it is spun, and also on how the yarns are spun. Without going into too much detail, worsted yarns end up smoother, tighter, stronger, more regular. Woolen yarns are spongy and fluffy (sort of) with a lot of loose fibers sticking out in all directions.

2) Flannel is a weaving technique. Flannel can be made from worsted or woolen yarns. Woolen flannels are very spongy and hairy and irregular. Woolen flannel can't hold a crease to save its life, and drapes well only in fairly heavy weights. Nonetheless, they can show a color variation -- sort of the cloth equivalent of antiquing -- that other cloths can't match. Worsted flannels are a little more precise and smooth. They drape and hold a crease better, but are a tad more bland and lack, for certain connoisseurs, a true woolen flannel's je ne sais quoi.

3) True worsteds are cloths woven from worsted yarns on a loom that produces a very smooth, sturdy cloth that holds a crease and drapes well and resists wrinkles. This is the workhorse business cloth that makes up the vast majority of suitings sold today.

Finally, keep in mind that any of the above cloths can be made in any weights. As a practical matter, flannel tends to be made in the heavier weights, and truly heavy worsteds are increasingly rare. But weight is not a determinitive factor here.
post #56 of 67
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Originally Posted by Man In Space
You got served!

Thank you, Home Slice.

May your next 25 posts be filled with as much knowledge as your first 25.
post #57 of 67
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Originally Posted by gorgekko
Black pants aren't a sign of a lack of imagination, people who cannot wear black pants in an interesting way suffer for a lack of imagination.

I was joking.

I actually own a pair of black pants, and if the good ship USS America (CV-66) is ever reactivated, I stand ready to don them once more.
post #58 of 67
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Originally Posted by Manton
1) There are worsted yarns and woolen yarns. This depends largely on how the raw wool is treated before it is spun, and also on how the yarns are spun. Without going into too much detail, worsted yarns end up smoother, tighter, stronger, more regular. Woolen yarns are spongy and fluffy (sort of) with a lot of loose fibers sticking out in all directions.

2) Flannel is a weaving technique. Flannel can be made from worsted or woolen yarns. Woolen flannels are very spongy and hairy and irregular. Woolen flannel can't hold a crease to save its life, and drapes well only in fairly heavy weights. Nonetheless, they can show a color variation -- sort of the cloth equivalent of antiquing -- that other cloths can't match. Worsted flannels are a little more precise and smooth. They drape and hold a crease better, but are a tad more bland and lack, for certain connoisseurs, a true woolen flannel's je ne sais quoi.

3) True worsteds are cloths woven from worsted yarns on a loom that produces a very smooth, sturdy cloth that holds a crease and drapes well and resists wrinkles. This is the workhorse business cloth that makes up the vast majority of suitings sold today.

Finally, keep in mind that any of the above cloths can be made in any weights. As a practical matter, flannel tends to be made in the heavier weights, and truly heavy worsteds are increasingly rare. But weight is not a determinitive factor here.
I knew if I posted something semi-incorrect, I'd draw out Manton to clear things up. Yeah, that's it...
post #59 of 67
So there are also worsted flannels ? I'd try to check them out
post #60 of 67
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Originally Posted by Mr. Checks
I was joking.

I actually own a pair of black pants, and if the good ship USS America (CV-66) is ever reactivated, I stand ready to don them once more.

My apologies then!
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