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post #31 of 40
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Originally Posted by Young Scrappy
What theorists are these? This is a great question. I think it doesn't lie in the choice of sport but on how one appreciates the sport. There are nuances and strategy in almost every sport. Essentially, every sport can be a thinking man's game. On the other hand, there are people who watch basketball for dunks, boxing for knockouts, NASCAR for wrecks, etc. which is low-brow in my opinion. Sportstalk radio, Sportscenter, and fantasy sports have bastardized the major sports. Its given sports a perception of a statistical driven male soap opera. And we all know soap operas are undoubtedly plebeian.
Someone like the Spanish theorist, José Ortega y Gasset. The Romans also knew how to capitalize on the mass mentality by staging large-scale gladiator fights. Marketing departments are also very adept at this.
post #32 of 40
Common means plebeian. Plebian or Plebeians(Latin) is common folks. Reference to masses attending amphitheaters of ancient Rome.

Methinks that we all very well know what is the distinction between a sports fan and occasional spectator of sporting events.

I think plebian is to talk sport statistics, make up fantasy-teams or talk about wrongly made trades and RBIs or some such drivel. Once you cross the line from a passive enjoyment into active screaming and cheering plebian there is no way back. You and your family are doomed forever.
post #33 of 40
How can it be wrong if it feels so right?
post #34 of 40
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Originally Posted by LabelKing
I don't mean the actual athletes but the fans.
Ah, I see. I misunderstood, obviously.
post #35 of 40
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Originally Posted by dkzzzz
Common means plebeian. Plebian or Plebeians(Latin) is common folks. Reference to masses attending amphitheaters of ancient Rome.

Methinks that we all very well know what is the distinction between a sports fan and occasional spectator of sporting events.

I think plebian is to talk sport statistics, make up fantasy-teams or talk about wrongly made trades and RBIs or some such drivel. Once you cross the line from a passive enjoyment into active screaming and cheering plebian there is no way back. You and your family are doomed forever.
I incorporate by reference odoreater's post as though fully set forth here.
post #36 of 40
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Originally Posted by dkzzzz
Common means plebeian. Plebian or Plebeians(Latin) is common folks. Reference to masses attending amphitheaters of ancient Rome.

Methinks that we all very well know what is the distinction between a sports fan and occasional spectator of sporting events.

I think plebian is to talk sport statistics, make up fantasy-teams or talk about wrongly made trades and RBIs or some such drivel. Once you cross the line from a passive enjoyment into active screaming and cheering plebian there is no way back. You and your family are doomed forever.

What I find laughable is that such people like Itzhak Perlman and Nigel Kennedy and others like him are ardent sports fans and they are without a doubt of far more cultural consequence than you are (or anyone you know). I think if you're some boring, pseudo intellectual sophist, you and your tragically unfortunate offspring are the ones who are doomed.
post #37 of 40
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Originally Posted by Brian SD
I only like classy sports like Golf and Polo. I need to appear sophisticated to all my friends.

haha ya on the topic of Polo, I'd love to attend that annual polo event in the Hamptons where every recently face lifted socialite ass whipe is standing in the tent, totally ignoring the match and pretending that their money and proximity to a polo match somehow makes them sophisticated.
post #38 of 40
Thread Starter 
How about a vice president dressing up in their sports team wear at a nice, quality restaurant, business casual function?
post #39 of 40
Sport is fantastic for its

a) Athleticism

and

B) Complete unpredictability.

I like to watch the flashes of human brilliance. Sport reduces all to equals (something certain people cannot handle). It brings out the character of a man.
post #40 of 40
Sports are like opera or Shakespeare for the working class. You'll pretty much see the typical "macho" man cry at two places; a funeral, and a sporting event. People might think it's barbaric to be into sports, but in many ways you are watching something very human and emotionally charged unfold in front of your eyes. Most of the people involved on the field/court/rink have very strong vested interests in what is happen, and strong emotional connections with their teamates.

Given that many people live lives where there's very little outlet for creativity and culture, sports can be a way to live vicariously, or at least share the feeling of the struggle and the human experience with someone on some field. Granted, the life of a pro athlete is undoubtedly better than 99% of the people who make up their fan base, but everyone on the planet faces triumphs and crushing losses, and sports is a very quantifiable, simple way to experience this. As for it being plebian, I'll evaluate that on a case by case basis. I know a number of highly cultured and highly intelligent people who are very into sports, and I don't think less of them. I'm into sports and act like a total idiot when I watch it, so if some associate lawyer with a monicle listening to his Naxos recording of the Four Seasons wants to call me a pleb for liking sports, then I don't want to be "sophisticated and cultured".
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